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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
but it's only wrong to people who agree with you. it's not wrong to the rest of us. What I meant is, that me feeling it is wrong, and you feeling it is right, is subjective. Whether it is actually wrong or right remains to be seen. Would you agree? I mean we have killed 40million already, what if some alien force came to us, and said, well your 40million short, so we are going to have to destroy you, and make way for an intergalactic highway.
and the fact that you want to put my life and health in jeopardy ??? I did not get you pregnant.It's your problem, not mine. You do understand that I am for abortion if medical conditions are present. I am not for it as a form of birth control.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
If I send my kids riding without a helmet, they won't get pregnant.
Where do you come up with this junk?
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
do you think maybe your unhealthy attitudes toward sex are a result of this? I do not have an unhealthy attitude towards sex, that is your subjective opinion. I love sex, I try to have it everyday.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3956 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
??? I did not get you pregnant. It's your problem, not mine. You do understand that I am for abortion if medical conditions are present. I am not for it as a form of birth control. it is your problem. it is none of your business what my doctor and i decide is in my best health interests. pregnancy INHERENTLY causes medical conditions. it's not for the legistlature to make sweeping judgements about what medically necessary means. the determination of medically necessary should only be considered by myself and my physician. ONLY. period. end of discussion.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3956 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
they won't get pregnant, but they will get a head injury and possibly die. it's inherently risky behavior. why would you do that to your children?
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3956 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
I do not have an unhealthy attitude towards sex, that is your subjective opinion. i think you do have an unhealthy attitude towards sex. you have this crazy idea that it affects people in different legal situations differently. is a woman who gets married and then ditched by a worthless husband any less badly off than a woman who has sex with a boyfriend who also later ditches her? no. sex and marriage do not change anything. it's people who deal dishonestly with each other.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
riVeRraT writes: ??? I did not get you pregnant.It's your problem, not mine. Are you your brother's/sister's keeper? Yes you are. It is your problem, whether you got him/her pregnant or not. It's everybody's responsibility. It's just not your business. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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Firebird Inactive Member |
Hi riVeRraT,
As Holmes implied, this article is more a collection of narratives than research, but the reason it interested me is because I could partly relate to it. As a teenager I would have been against abortion, but had no understanding of the issues; just found the idea repulsive. I never campaigned or joined any anti-abortion lobby. As a young adult, however, I did have an early term abortion, and have not regretted doing so. Under the circumstances my becoming pregnant was both dishonest and manipulative (not to say that the other involved was better but still). Anyway, I saw the procedure more as righting a wrong, like returning to a store department after you’ve left it with an item unpaid for; embarrassing but still not as bad as leaving the store with it. . . I did and do feel guilt, and therefore learned to understand much more about the whole complex issue. Now I will support any woman’s right to an informed choice. Concerning the women who secretly had abortions and then returned to the picket line, I find it very hard to understand their thinking, and can only assume that they believe themselves unable to do without their support group.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3956 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
the best part is that he was too thick to get my use of the term UNDUE BURDEN as a statement of legality.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
I think of my own intellect as mostly "thickness" punctuated by brief periods of clarity.
I try to keep the thick bits off the Internet. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
pregnancy INHERENTLY causes medical conditions No shit sherlock!!! What causes pregnancy? Now you can end it.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
they won't get pregnant, but they will get a head injury and possibly die. it's inherently risky behavior. why would you do that to your children? Exactly!!!! Bingo!!!!! So I make them where a helmet, so that won't happen. Cause if they hurt there head, they could not just go and get an abortion and make it all better. If we treated the process that causes humans to exist, yourself included with half the respect of my child wearing a helmet, then people would stop having sex, unless they were married, otherwise cut your nuts, or tie your tubes. BTW, abortion is a risky medical procedure also, but that one is ok, because it's not as bad. Give me a break.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Are you your brother's/sister's keeper? Yes you are. It is your problem, whether you got him/her pregnant or not. It's everybody's responsibility. It's just not your business. Thats just a bunch of BS also.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
the best part is that he was too thick to get my use of the term UNDUE BURDEN as a statement of legality. If you have something to say about me, say it directly to me, not to ringo. undue burden is not a statement of legality in the sense you are using it. There's nothing undue about having consensual sex, and not expecting that a life may start to exist. It's due.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Hi firebird
As Holmes implied, this article is more a collection of narratives than research, but the reason it interested me is because I could partly relate to it. As a teenager I would have been against abortion, but had no understanding of the issues; just found the idea repulsive. I never campaigned or joined any anti-abortion lobby. The title speaks for itself.
As a young adult, however, I did have an early term abortion, and have not regretted doing so. Under the circumstances my becoming pregnant was both dishonest and manipulative (not to say that the other involved was better but still). Anyway, I saw the procedure more as righting a wrong, like returning to a store department after you’ve left it with an item unpaid for; embarrassing but still not as bad as leaving the store with it. . . That pretty much sums up how I felt about the abortion me and my fiancee agreed upon. So I can relate. Except now I feel bad about it. It nothing more than the fact that I did an act, a selfish act of pleasure, started alife form, and then never gave it a chance. Where ever this whole prcess comes from, making babies, whether it's from God or not, I feel lucky to be able to experience it, and I took advantage of it. You say you do not feel bad about it? You never even think about what that child might have been like? Could have been your best friend in the whole world, who loved you until your death bed.
I did and do feel guilt, About having an abortion, or being anti-abortion (at first)?
Concerning the women who secretly had abortions and then returned to the picket line, I find it very hard to understand their thinking, and can only assume that they believe themselves unable to do without their support group. I find it very hard to understand their thinking too, that is why I will not judge them. There is more than one issue going on there, and it may not even have anything to do with just abortion.
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