Are mutations enough to explain natural selection?

Lets say it together:A 1 in 32 chance means that the 32nd iteration will have what you are looking for.Creation math 101.

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PB: Problem with you guys is that you are to blind to see what is really going on in this world. My definition of nonranom mutaions was that these mutations are random with respect to position where the are introduced and usually with respect to nucleotide. That is exactly the same as DR CAporalse's definition and if you don't believ it look at page 41: "Thus mutations are not random, at least with respect to their position in a DNA sequence". And, as Dr Caporale told me she had had a lot of dogmatic arguments from orthodox evolutionists too. So, my advise: update.

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Peter:
Which is what I just said ... the replied you have recieved on
this subject accept hot-spots ... i.e. that there are areas
with a higher mutation rate than others, and that there is
a mechanism involved in this.

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'not random with respect to position' is the phrase.

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When they occur and why is still considered 'random'.

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Of course, Dr.Caporale told me that she was upset that her book was being misinterpreted....I wonder by whom?

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PB: Ever heard about the immunoglobulin genes? They mutate in response to antigen. That is a direct stimulus.

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As you are an asthma reseacher, I should not have expcted you to understand that the hypervariation in Ig genes is not heritable.

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Originally posted by Peter:

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PB: ...and the denial goes on and on and on. Why don't you just give up, like everybody els already did. In short, NRM are real and can be induced by environmental factors.

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Where is the reply in this section?

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I don't know about this section, but I posted this:http://EvC Forum: for Conspirator -->EvC Forum: for Conspiratorand it was Borger that "gave up." Said he would get to them when we finished up elsewhere.Easier to ignore evidence counter to your claims and then insist that everyone els "gave up" after you refuse to deal with it....

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PW: If you check back I think SLPx did quote Dr.Caporale
in a previous post ... can't seem to find it to
reference for you but I'm sure it's there.

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PB: You're too eager. It was me who contacted Dr Caporale and I quoted her, not Page. It was about orthodox evolutionists and not understanding NRM (like Page and you).

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Now, now, Peyey - I also emailed Dr.Caporale (other folks have email too, you know). I mentioned you. She forwarded to me her entire reply to you, and mentioned the QUOTE from her that I posted previously - the one in which she lamented that her book was being "misinterpreted."I understand that you are a megalomaniac, but lets not resort so quickly to lies, OK Pete?

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PB:
I presume you've got a better interpretation.

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You still don't get it Page. For you once more: Science = interpretation. I don't mind you keep interpretating your data according to your paradigm, but than you shouldn't mind that I will point out the flaws in your interpretation. I will keep interpreting the same data in the new paradigm. Why? Since it fits better.

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I get it, Borger.You interpret things the way you want or need them to be, not the way that makes sense.Ask Dr.Caporale.Which is what I was talking about.

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Megaloman:
Amazing how you are always able to find a straw man.

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Quite easy - just by looking in your posts. There are usually several in each.

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Better pay some attention to your analyses of the mtDNA, ZFY region, the IL-1beta genes, the swimreflex in newborn, etcetera, etcetera.

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Where are your analyses of these?Oh - thats right, you don't do any. You just carefully select a paper here and there and make stuff up. I especially like the "logic" employed wherein you implicitly require to abandonment of documented contrary data because of what are at best a hadful of anomolies. Now THATS how science is done!

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Still waiting Dr Page. I know you can do it

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You obviously cannot...

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