The Case Against the Existence of God

The Western monotheistic Catholic/Protestant/Orthodox Christian one?
Not to exclude Jews and Muslim concepts of a Monotheistic entity? (as opposed to Pantheistic union with all matter or some other non-monotheistic concept, right?) One thing that I may point out is this:Father Christmas, the Easter Bunny, The Green Lantern, Loki the trickster or any other manmade stories may have a spiritual component to them in the realm of human mythology.What we are discussing here, IMHO, is the Creator of the vast cosmos and the origin of all rational thoughts, ideas, emotions, perceptions, and the very universe itself.In my opinion, the case against the existance of God must logically explain the validity and common sense approach of a universe without a Creator that is only explained to us by our own human wisdom.In short, if God is not the origin and the source, our own human wisdom is the origin and the source for explaining all that is.I did not become a believer through logic and common sense, but I remain one due to logic and common sense. (Emotions optional! )

Yet the fact that I feel pain has saved my hand from getting burned on a hot stove.The fact that I feel pain has protected me from saddle sores while riding my bicycle.Pain is a useful feeling.The fact that I got my bottem spanked when I was a kid saved me from having no sense of morality.

MY Definition? Is there such a thing as an original thought? Good sense is based on experience.Good sense is based in part on what one learns, but, more directly, on what one discovers to be verified again and again.Example: "Does it hurt when you do that?"
Patient: Yes!
"Then don't DO that! If religion and church people have hurt someone, chances are that the individual will no longer seek those avenues of enlightenment.This message has been edited by Phat, 04-06-2006 11:39 PM

OK Dan! (I KNEW you would make me think, darn it! )Are you thus suggesting that a possible alternative to my either/or reality is the possibility that both My God and your Green Lanturn can both simultaneously exist?

Fuzzy?Let me clear the air!I believe that an author is inspired in several ways, yet I basically believe that our inspiration originates from one of two sources:
1) The Holy Spirit
or...
2) The "other" flow.I am not saying that I believe the entire Bible to be inerrent in word for word meaning.What I am suggesting is that the New Testament authors were not making it up as they went along. They were actually recording under the unction of the Holy Spirit.I have to take a stand on my beliefs one way or the other, and if it means ascribing human wisdom alone as the source of Biblical inspiration or being carried along by the Spirit..(as another thread suggests) I'd have to go with the Spirit!