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MangyTiger
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Message 22 of 44 (302527)
04-08-2006 7:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by RAZD
04-08-2006 9:29 AM


The point is that viruses are an easy proven means to implement designed elements into organic systems, so why don't we see design improvements being delivered by various viruses?
Perhaps because the unknown designer and/or implementer(s) don't want to carry out any improvements at this point in time.
Since the ID crowd generally try to avoid any attempt to identify the designer - which means we cannot know the motives or goals of the man behind the curtain - there is no reason to expect to see improvements. Of course, there is no reason not to either.
So, how does "Intelligent Design" explain all the bad design carried by viruses and other {vector\delivery} systems?
Because that's what the signed-off Specification says they should do

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MangyTiger
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Message 38 of 44 (302709)
04-09-2006 8:05 PM
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04-09-2006 12:30 PM


Perhaps because the unknown designer and/or implementer(s) don't want to carry out any improvements at this point in time.
At a time when global warming trends are changing habitats around the world and while human effort is causing massive habitat destruction on an equally global scale, to the point where species extinction rates have risen noticeably?
These seem to be very human (or maybe Earth) centric concerns. How do we know they are of concern to the designer? For all we know they could be the whole point of the exercise!

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MangyTiger
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Message 42 of 44 (303693)
04-12-2006 9:01 PM
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04-10-2006 8:15 PM


What is the probability that a designer would be interested in this little backwater world on the outer arm of a rather insignificant galaxy?
I don't have the foggiest idea - and neither do you or anyone else
Perhaps we are part of some sort of weapons development project and our isolated location away from prying tricorders is a big attraction. Then again I could have watched too much Star Trek.
It's certainly not the center of the universe eh? Certainly there is no major "universety" nearby for aspiring designers to have their abilities improved, honed and tested ... refined.
Maybe, maybe not. It would seem that if our designers/implementers can get from wherever they hang out to here they are capable of travelling at least inter-stellar distances (if we're going the alien ID route) - in which case 'nearby' may not be a meaningful concept.
Maybe I'm not getting my real point across very well.
Personally I think that ID as currently espoused has little to no scientific validity and is ultimately just a political and/or religious movement to get around the separation of Church and State in the US.
However it seems to me the sort of arguments you are advancing rely on a level of knowledge of the goals of the putative IDer that simply isn't available and as such don't hold too much water.

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