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Author Topic:   Luke and Matthews geneologies
funkmasterfreaky
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Message 11 of 168 (24024)
11-24-2002 10:36 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by doctrbill
11-23-2002 7:03 PM


Hey there bill. Are you jewish? Curious me is wondering. So you are studied in hebrew text and such, you've read and studied the ancient hebrew text?
Question for you anyway. Can you do math? Do you know how to work out probability?
The propehesy in Isiah is only one concerning the messiah how about you get a whole list of the prophesies concerning the messiah and then do some math. What is the probability that all these prophesies over this whole period of time, could ever be filled by the lifetime of one man?
Have to be a pretty organized sham to last so many years. Wouldn't you agree?
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 20 of 168 (24494)
11-26-2002 6:45 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by John
11-25-2002 4:20 PM


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Given the math of probabilities is it possible that the geneaology in question is not counter evidence (is that a correct phrase?), but something we just don't understand yet. Please note the emphasis on "possible".
John you have done a wonderful job running and hiding from this question, dancing around the point and nit picking at wordings, however it's a very simple straight forward question. It's an easy one word post. Just curious
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 72 of 168 (26020)
12-09-2002 8:34 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by Karl
12-09-2002 7:19 AM


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No. I think the question for the church to answer is how to demonstrate the reality of the risen Christ in the world.
Amen and Amen
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 75 of 168 (28131)
12-30-2002 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by Karl
12-09-2002 3:01 PM


Just back to a reason Luke might have felt led to give the genealogy of the line of Mary, goes right back to Genesis.
Genesis 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
This is the only time I know of that the seed of the woman is mentioned. Jesus came to crush the serpants head, and the virgin birth would make him the seed of the woman. Does this make any sense? Maybe this is why he was led to give the genealogy he did?
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 112 of 168 (30407)
01-28-2003 2:21 AM
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01-08-2003 11:01 AM


The Gen 3:15 verse refers to the curse God put apon man and the serpant not the coming messiah.
Why do you say that? Satan managed to decieve man, tricking him into disobeying God. God cursed man but promised that the seed of the woman would crush satan. Which Jesus did at the cross. So the seed of a woman (virgin birth) was the one to crush satan's grip on the world.
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 115 of 168 (30459)
01-28-2003 4:15 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by iconoclast2440
01-28-2003 3:22 PM


After spending alot of time on this discussion when I first came to this board, I can see a purpose for both genealogies.
This last verse that I used may or may not be relevant. However I believe that having both genealogies serves the purpose of showing that Jesus came for the Jews, as well as for the gentiles.
I know that you disagree, and again I'm going to have to bow out of this conversation.
However I do not see this as a contradiction, or anything to discredit the fact that Jesus Christ came to save all those who would believe.
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 117 of 168 (30462)
01-28-2003 4:57 PM
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01-28-2003 4:26 PM


meh
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