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Author Topic:   Judges 19 - Sickest story in the bible
macaroniandcheese 
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Message 103 of 120 (255815)
10-31-2005 2:37 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by LinearAq
10-31-2005 1:41 PM


Re: What God gave us
First, in what way is a person who is raped "ruined for life". I am not condoning rape but you indicate that the person who was raped is held accountable for that rape. How is she ruined any more than if she were beaten up?
you've never been sexually assaulted have you?
Second, I think Yaro's point is not that these things are right or wrong according to the times but that the Bible, and God by default, condones those things.
God says it's right for a child of an unwed mother to be kept out of the congregation.
God says it's right for a man who had his genitals damaged to be kept out of the congregation of the Lord. (I wonder who checked for that?)
God condones slavery.
God condones the harsh punishments that are called for in the law.
The God that never changes must surely require us to follow those same requirements now. If He condones and even commands particular behaviors then but considers those behaviors wrong now, then what does that say about objective morals. You argue that morals should be changed based on subjective criteria. Some things are right in a primitive society but no longer are? How relativistic can you get?
the bible is not the word prime of god. it is the recorded documents compiled of a people and their opinions of their interactions with god. our president claims to talk to god and what does he do? he seeks to outlaw medical research and treatment he thinks is bad. and then he off and kills our children by sending them to die to enforce democracy (which is supposed to be instituted by a decisive people, not a conquering army). why? because he has a false view of god (and a few other things).
the people of israel saw themselves as building a pure nation full and robust and one to reach into all the world. they saw their numbers being as the stars. this explains the exclusion of the infertile and those of unverifiable parentage. their goals reflect their methods.
try a little reading comprehension. they made their laws based on their goals. and what's so wrong with relativism? we're all a little bit wrong.
This message has been edited by brennakimi, 10-31-2005 05:29 PM

And why you think you take a Ho to a Ho-tel
Ho-tell everybody, even the mayor
Reach up in the sky for the Ho-zone layer
Now C'mon playa wants a Ho always
And Ho's neva close, they open like hallways

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 115 of 120 (304494)
04-15-2006 7:46 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by DeclinetoState
04-15-2006 7:21 PM


Re: Judges 19 (Brick Testament and otherwise)
It seems that a lot of bad things happened to good people--and good things to bad people.
isn't that how life works?

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