The Apocalyptic Beheaders

Well there are a lot of them, jar, and how do you propose to deal with this Greatest Threat to the world? Beheading strike you as appropriate perhaps?I'm not completely convinced about the meaning of Revelation (singular, not plural), but I tend to be most attracted to the idea that it is to have multiple fulfillments over time, many already past, still at least one to come -- that is, many tribulations, many antichrists, many wars against the saints, with a Grand Finale at the very end. I don't know yet what I think of this particular prophecy about beheading, but certainly fundamental Islam is anti-Christian and practices beheadings of those it considers infidels and is a growing force in the world these days.This message has been edited by Faith, 04-15-2006 05:37 PM

You are shrewd as a snake, aren't you, jar? I suggest that you might be interested in beheading Christians and based on that you pretend I'm in favor of beheading.This message has been edited by Faith, 04-15-2006 09:43 PM

Seems to me that calling Bible-inerrancy Christians the greatest threat facing the world today is Character Assassination Par Excellence, and it puts you in the camp with fundamental Muslims, who want to do away with us or enslave us, either one. The language is inflammatory at the very least. If you yourself would not propose such a remedy, you shouldn't call us the "greatest threat to the world" as that gives fuel to our enemies. Fundamental Islam DOES believe in beheading infidels.

The idea that believers in prophecy would do anything to bring it about amounts to slander. Comparing mainstream Christian believers in an imminent fulfillment of the end times to such completely nonBiblical groups as Heaven's Gate is absurd and appears to be a reaching for any old thing to tar fundies with.

In the early days of the Zionist movement Christians didn't believe the Jews would ever return to the land. If anything they fought the idea or at least scoffed at it. Christian Zionism is a very recent thing, based on seeing prophecy as an already-accomplished fact. Some small number of Christians started supporting it in the 30s and 40s I believe, but it didn't really take off until the 70s and 80s.This message has been edited by Faith, 04-17-2006 07:47 AM

Again, Christians had nothing whatever to do with the Jews' returning to Palestine. Now that they are there Christians are enthusiastic about the fulfilled prophecy and definitely support Israel. However, there are other reasons to support Israel than Biblical reasons. Mostly in a positive direction. It certainly made a difference to other Arabs from outside the area who moved into Palestine because they got hired by the Jews in the rebuilding of Israel. Most of what are now called "Palestinians" didn't live there until then. Some lived there, yes, and that includes Jews who had also been there for the last 2 millennia. But the area was basically a wasteland when the Jews first started settling there and they made it productive. The "huge difference" they made was in a positive direction.The native Arabs SHOULD have welcomed them instead of fighting them, should have learned from them how to improve their own lot, should have accepted their help, etc.This message has been edited by Faith, 04-17-2006 07:13 AM

Read one yourself. We are talking about Christians not "Christian government." Since when did the British government act on belief in Biblical prophecy?This message has been edited by Faith, 04-17-2006 10:15 AM