Salvation by faith and works : intellectually ridiculous?

How does your god decide who is saved?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Well, I read the OP again as well. But the question remains...How does your God decide who is saved?The issue is one of what is judgement based on?I believe that salvation has been given to all, everyone, believers and non-believers, Satanist and Muslim, Atheist and Agnostic, Buddhist and Taoist. GOD will judge each individual on how they behaved while alive. And GOD will make some judgement.But the criteria will be on what someone actually does, or even more importantly, what someone does not do. Loving GOD is not a matter of what you believe, it's what you do. This is the message found throughout the Bible, and has been shown here at EvC consistently when those who try to build the case for Faith only by quotemining and others bring in the rest of the material found adjacent to the quotemined section.My belief and position are out here at EvC for all to see and criticize. And they do.Now I'd really like for you to outline your position.How does your god decide who is saved?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

I've laid mine out in Message 13 and many, many others for all to see.If you feel trying to support your position is off topic, fine.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

If Jesus had been an eternal being at the time, or God at the time, what you say would be completely correct.But suppose he was not an eternal being at the time. Suppose he was not GOD at the time but simply human. He might believe that he will be raised from the dead, might believe it very strongly, but still, as a human, the pain would still be real and there would still be doubts.Where I do agree with you is that the fact of Crucifixion itself is not very inspiring and those who concentrate on that aspect miss the message of Christianity. There were at least two others who suffered the same way that very day, that very location, that very moment. It's likely that hundreds or thousands of others were crucified that same day across the Roman Empire.The message of Christianity is Jesus life. GOD became man, and as man, walked among us, laughed, cried, ate, slept, danced, drank, shared and taught. He lived with us, he died, and he was raised from the dead by GOD and forty days later he ascended into heaven.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

will they too be surprised? I think most Christians will find out they are among the Goats. It's not a sure outcome, some Christians my get into the Sheep herd, but not that many. And the Goats will definitely be almost entirely Christians.This message has been edited by jar, 04-19-2006 07:48 PM

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Not to worry iano, everyone can read Message 86 and Message 81 as well as the reasoned and respectable posts from Trixie in Message 85 and Message 78 and make their own assesments.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Once again, you replying to me?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

The key is what you don't do, even more than what you do. And we will only find out if we succeeded after we die.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion