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CK
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Message 181 of 302 (305624)
04-21-2006 7:45 AM
Reply to: Message 180 by AdminPD
04-21-2006 7:39 AM


Re: Discussion Closed
What sort of answer is that? You give a bizzare left-field reply to my question and I'm not allowed to ask what on earth you are talking about?

I'll drop the matter there but it seem entirely pointless to have a thread to discussion moderation if you are unable to quiz the moderators!

This message has been edited by CK, 21-Apr-2006 07:47 AM


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Message 182 of 302 (305632)
04-21-2006 8:35 AM
Reply to: Message 181 by CK
04-21-2006 7:45 AM


Re: Discussion Closed
quote:
What sort of answer is that?
It is an answer designed to tell you that this situation which concerned actual participants of the thread is now concluded and not open to any more discussion.

But since you can't seem to let sleeping dogs lie, here it is.

I consider this thread to be for those within a thread to address moderator actions within that thread or to bring attention to problems within that thread.

I don't feel it is a thread for the general membership to give their opinions on complaints or moderation procedures in threads they are not participating in unless outside input is requested.

Since you aren't a participant in the thread in question and no moderation action was taken against you by me (no wrong committed against you), your insults to me were unjustified. Whatever your reasons for jumping into the dispute, I did not deserve your rude response.

I addressed your racist concern in Message 178 to iano in which I also stated that
This situation is now concluded and not open to any more discussion.

In conclusion:

This situation is now concluded and not open to any more discussion.

Do Not Respond To This Message


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CK
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Message 183 of 302 (305636)
04-21-2006 8:47 AM
Reply to: Message 182 by AdminPD
04-21-2006 8:35 AM


Re: Discussion Closed
How can I let it lie when you keep making increasingly bizzare statements?

quote:
your insults to me were unjustified.

What insults? What are you on about? What rude response?

Maybe this is a language problem or something but I honestly don't understand the progression of this conversation. Your replies and sense of injury do not seem to bear any relationship to the questions that I raised. I'm truely baffled about what is actually occuring here.

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Message 184 of 302 (305639)
04-21-2006 8:53 AM
Reply to: Message 181 by CK
04-21-2006 7:45 AM


Re: Discussion Closed
Hi Charles,

CK writes:

What sort of answer is that? You give a bizzare left-field reply to my question and I'm not allowed to ask what on earth you are talking about?

In Message 174 AdminPD wrote this:

AdminPD writes:

I've already apologized to Trixie for my lack of knowledge which prevents me from understanding how this belittles Trixie.

Another admin will have to decide if action is required.

Sorry.

You replied in this manner in Message 175, the very next message:

CK writes:

And the casual racism is beyond your scope as well?

Or I take it you agree that orthodox jews treat gentiles as dogs?

oh must go, I see a blackman outside and you know how they like to steal anything that's not nailed down.

This is fairly offensive, especially since it appears to come from out of the blue. AdminPD tried to ignore it and disengage, but now you're hounding her.

Please go back to lurking, about your only choice now that I've suspended your posting privileges.

This message has been edited by Admin, Fri, 04-21-2006 08:56 AM


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Message 185 of 302 (305725)
04-21-2006 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 184 by Admin
04-21-2006 8:53 AM


A bit of clarification
Hi Admin,

I don't want to get too involved in the discussion about who belittled who, or what is offensive etc. - it's been a bit of tiring day. I thought I'd do my own quiet bit of lurking after work. However, it does seem that there seems to be quite a lot of wires crossed here, probably caused by CK not attributing his quotes to specific posts.

Leaving aside the Celtic/Rangers thing, CK's main gripe seems to be with Message 86 in which iano states:

iano writes:

... He looked at me as if satan himself was offering to by him a drink" Orthodox Jews consider gentiles as they always have. As dogs.

CK thought this was casual racism and likened it to saying:

oh must go, I see a blackman outside and you know how they like to steal anything that's not nailed down.

CK wanted to know why this was not picked up by a Moderator, any Moderator, and seemed to be frustrated that PD didn't address it specifically in her reply.

My point is I don't think the comment that CK seems to be suspended for was completely out of the blue and you seem to have taken it slightly out of context. Apologies if I've missed something here, as I said it's been a long day.


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Message 186 of 302 (305734)
04-21-2006 4:36 PM
Reply to: Message 185 by Ooook!
04-21-2006 4:00 PM


Re: A bit of clarification
What a load of political correctness. Those comparisons are not the same at all.


"A man with a good car doesn't have to be justified"---Flannery O'Connor
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Message 187 of 302 (305773)
04-21-2006 7:28 PM


Topic Drift Alert
I've been tied up in a conference call this afternoon but was sufficiently concerned about this thread to temporarily deactivate the Suggestions and Questions forum until I had a chance to return.

This thread is for raising both specific and general concerns about moderation. Please do not use it for other purposes. Thanks!


--Percy
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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 188 of 302 (306306)
04-24-2006 1:42 PM


admin pd
i actually think that new human baby topic has the potential to be a very interesting one. at the very worst, put a hold on it for a week, but do promote it.
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Message 189 of 302 (306312)
04-24-2006 3:18 PM
Reply to: Message 188 by macaroniandcheese
04-24-2006 1:42 PM


Interest Noted
It looks like it would be an interesting discussion.

Hopefully the originator does continue to participate.


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AdminPD
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Message 190 of 302 (307872)
04-30-2006 8:34 AM
Reply to: Message 188 by macaroniandcheese
04-24-2006 1:42 PM


Human Babies
Brennakimi,

Are you still interested in this topic being promoted whether the originator returns to participate in the thread or not?


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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 191 of 302 (307902)
04-30-2006 11:32 AM
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04-30-2006 8:34 AM


Re: Human Babies
i'm interested in it but i'm not sure how much i could personally add. i've been out of bio for so long... i can try.
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RAZD
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Message 192 of 302 (308415)
05-02-2006 7:29 AM


Age Correlations Step by Step
See www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=3&t=111&m=5#5 -->www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=3&t=111&m=5#5">http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=3&t=111&m=5#5

Please move this thread back to coffeehouse


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Message 193 of 302 (308486)
05-02-2006 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 192 by RAZD
05-02-2006 7:29 AM


Re: Age Correlations Step by Step
It is not a "Coffee House" type topic.

It is a "Dates and Dating" type topic.

I say it stays where it is.

Adminnemooseus


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RAZD
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Message 194 of 302 (308506)
05-02-2006 1:00 PM
Reply to: Message 193 by Adminnemooseus
05-02-2006 12:02 PM


Re: Age Correlations Step by Step
What about in {Great Debate} then?

The idea was to discuss the issue in a non-science forum, as 'relative' requested.


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Message 195 of 302 (308513)
05-02-2006 1:32 PM
Reply to: Message 194 by RAZD
05-02-2006 1:00 PM


Re: Age Correlations Step by Step
First of all, I'll point out (as being discussed in the "Private Administration Forum") that "relative" is apparently another incarnation of "simple", who is currently of "full suspension" status. Thus his very presence here is highly problimatic. Do you want to do a "Great Debate" with "simple"?

Is the topic in questions some sort of "creation with apparent age" sort of thing? If so, perhaps the topic belongs in one of the "Social and Religious Issues" forums.

Adminnemooseus


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