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Brad McFall
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Message 29 of 52 (310548)
05-09-2006 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by kalimero
05-08-2006 1:39 PM


does not the point depend on,
if the fluctuating mutations are different categorically than any other mutation?
Gould seems to insist in his structure book that that the difference of fluctuating and non-fluctuating mutations is not real as to mutational variation.
It seems to me that some traits artists attempt to draw on animals, of a pretended future, may not be real but it seems possible to me that the category we think of fluctuating mutations in, might be very well broadened. I subjectively think I thought so for fish in '86.
I wonder if the images presented in the Vonynich manuscript
http://www.voynich.nu/
might not eventually be found to be evidence of De Vries' idea
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centuries before empircal science caught up with the observation
If I am correct the cylinder images on left in the manscript ( see example in thumbnail above) represent, non-fluctuating mutations (any kind of mutation from point mutations to delterious ones in general) that are serialized to the right. I have only just begun to look this intently at this work, but if I am correct the the text itself will represent the discontinuity or "saltation" of Gould's liking and the different series will premeditate actual mutation series DIFFERNENCES. Thus I will be possibly able to explain what Gould could not, namely, why De Vries added the crucial part of his idea near the end of a list, BEFORE he stated about the ALL DIRECTION of mutations. The reference to women and stars in the Vonyich script might simply be a an attempt to take the text out of the direction caused by the specific mutations or variations painted. Thus Gould's would have been possibly been found to have a fudamental error in giving algebra more to geneotypes than phenotypes AT THE SAME TIME he descripts the motivation to use geometry in biology.
In any event, I do not count the idea that fluctuating mutations only apply to the leaves to be particularly telling for Darwin's strategic discussion of flowers, as some "female" parts move past male "ones" that are in the process of inverting morphologically (amarillus).
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Brad McFall
Member (Idle past 5032 days)
Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
Joined: 12-20-2001


Message 30 of 52 (310549)
05-09-2006 4:15 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by kalimero
05-08-2006 1:39 PM


double post
sorry
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