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peer reviewed paper: WTC downed via demolitions

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Quetzal
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Message 136 of 143 (310575)
05-09-2006 5:25 PM 		Reply to: Message 135 by Brad
05-09-2006 5:18 PM

Thanks
Okay thanks. That explains it. It just looked weird to me as first posted. Carry on.
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Message 137 of 143 (310704)
05-10-2006 9:27 AM 		Reply to: Message 130 by Codegate
05-09-2006 4:09 PM

Re: Falling rocks
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Watching the tape with a stop watch gives a time of about 10 seconds. Almost complete freefall.
Benefit of the doubt on the timing. The question is how does this time compare with what it should be if the floors were solidly connected to the support structure? I am assuming you contend that the support for the floors was removed by explosive devices. All of the floors? Only a few? How many floor supports would need to be removed to cause what was observed?
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....but 7 was built using standard techniques and to boot it wasn't hit by a plane or any significant debris. Things just don't quite add up.
The only sources I have seen (Discovery Channel, Time Magazine) have stated that significant damage was incurred by WTC 7 when the towers fell. What sources are you using?
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Message 138 of 143 (310709)
05-10-2006 9:59 AM 		Reply to: Message 137 by LinearAq
05-10-2006 9:27 AM

Re: Falling rocks
Again, all of my points are coming from my recollection of the Loose Change video. As to how much misrepresentation the creator did when he made it I can't say.
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I've been skimming through the video again to try to find my cordite reference and I was mistaken. The cordite quotes were actually taken from the pentagon, not the WTC as I originally posted. Between the 26 and 27 minute marks of the video they quote a couple of people that say that they smelled cordite. In addition, they claim that the color of the blast and fire was not the color of a jet fuel fire, but a silvery small fire that matches a cordite fire.
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Another point of interest is that there were 3 cameras that would have captured the entire incident at the pentagon. The FBI confiscated all 3 tapes within minutes and has never released them. All they would have to do to prove that it was a plane that hit the pentagon would be to release one of these videos.
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It's all food for thought. Remember to always take what you watch in these movies with a significant dose of sceptisism. You never know what motives the creators have.
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Message 139 of 143 (310743)
05-10-2006 12:27 PM 		Reply to: Message 138 by Codegate
05-10-2006 9:59 AM

Re: Falling rocks
The cordite smell was mentioned in the section on the pentagon.
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Quetzal
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Message 140 of 143 (310789)
05-10-2006 4:15 PM 		Reply to: Message 137 by LinearAq
05-10-2006 9:27 AM

Re: Falling rocks
Hi ag. Although by the standards of this thread, the link below is suspect (because it's a gov't agency - National Institute of Standards), you might find the information interesting in light of your statement:
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I am assuming you contend that the support for the floors was removed by explosive devices...
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Latest Findings from NIST World Trade Center Investigation Released dated Apr 2005.
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Message 141 of 143 (312449)
05-16-2006 1:13 PM

This news just in.. could destroy conspiracy theory regarding the pentagon?
BBC NEWS | Americas | US releases 9/11 Pentagon video
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[abe: why didn't they release it before now?]
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Edited by Creavolution, : No reason given.
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Message 142 of 143 (312462)
05-16-2006 1:37 PM 		Reply to: Message 141 by Heathen
05-16-2006 1:13 PM

why didn't they release it before now?]
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From the link you provided
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Judicial Watch filed the freedom of information request in 2004, but the Pentagon refused to release the video because it was part of the investigation involving al-Qaeda plotter Zacarias Moussaoui, the group said.
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Message 143 of 143 (312465)
05-16-2006 1:47 PM 		Reply to: Message 142 by kjsimons
05-16-2006 1:37 PM

but the WTC attacks weren't?
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