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Author Topic:   Does an atheist have to believe in evolution?
kuresu
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Message 61 of 64 (311829)
05-14-2006 9:35 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by robinrohan
05-12-2006 6:20 PM


actually, your moral feelings may be logical. Let's use Kant as an example. Ever hear of the categorical imperative? The logical basis for doing what is right, and if I understand Kant correctly, moral. Also, if you follow the golden rule, it too is on a logical basis. You treat others well so that they treat you nice. Treating them badly would be quite illogical, especially if they were a gang of murderers, for example.

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riVeRraT
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Message 62 of 64 (311880)
05-15-2006 6:23 AM
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05-14-2006 9:35 PM


Treating them badly would be quite illogical, especially if they were a gang of murderers, for example.
Unless you thought you were a bigger, better, murderer or gang.
Either way, in your own mind, you think, you are thinking logical.

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robinrohan
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Message 63 of 64 (311889)
05-15-2006 7:18 AM
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05-14-2006 9:35 PM


Ever hear of the categorical imperative? The logical basis for doing what is right, and if I understand Kant correctly, moral. Also, if you follow the golden rule, it too is on a logical basis. You treat others well so that they treat you nice. Treating them badly would be quite illogical, especially if they were a gang of murderers, for example.
Of course I've heard of the categorical imperative. None of these moral ideas have a logical ground.

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robinrohan
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Message 64 of 64 (311891)
05-15-2006 7:20 AM
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05-14-2006 5:29 PM


In other words, one could say that you "believe in gravity" since nothing is ever proven.
There are different degrees of certainty involved. Logic is a given. One can't question it.

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