Why Atheists don't believe

Find one and start a thread where we can discuss it. So far no one has been able to produce such a critter.You ask "Why atheists don't believe" and IMHO one major reason is that Christians bring forward such utter nonsense "proofs". When shown absolutely ridiculous propaganda films like the one about the banana, or all the prophecy quotemining, the only possible reaction from someone who is capable of critical thinking is that "These folk are crazy or stupid!"One big reason that atheists don't believe is that so many Christians not only don't provided them something worth believing in, but they provide so called evidence that is insulting to the intellegence of the person they are trying to convince.

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yet just before you claimed... That's the exact kind of evidence that drives folk away from Christianity. Many Christians do make such claims, but so far every single one that has been brought up has been shown to be flat out lies, quotemining, misinterpretation or just sheer nonsense. When the alleged prophecies are presented to anyone who has either read the Bible or is capable of critical thinking they will quickly decide that "them Christians are either stupid or crazy." The film is a joke even without the banana stuff. It is simplistic and absurd and a classic example of how to drive folk away from Christianity. Some of the evidence that Christians do supply are things like the intoreance and bigotry of the televangelists and many Christians that post here at EvC. It is things like the absolutely embarassing video that instigated this thread. It is claims like the silly prophecy fullfilled arguments presented, it is the wilfull ignorance of the YECs and anti-evolution Christians here and out in the world, it is the websites of DrDino and Gene Scott and Ron Wyatt and AIG and ICR.If you look at the image that most Christians show to the world it is one of small minded, very ignorant, intolerant, bigoted, exclusionary, uneducated, inconsiderate, opinionated fools.

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Yet another example of how Christians drive folk away from Christianity. The John 15:18 defense. Reminds me of the songs the Christians sing on the bus and here on the board when they spout their intolerance: The folk that quotemine John 15:18 always seem to forget to read the whole thing, or go on to the beginning of John 16 where we find: This clearly is a reference to today's intolerant Christian Right and Fundamentalists. They are the ones who proclaim that certain people are not "True Christians", that only They know the will of GOD.Yes, it is Christians that drive folk away from Christianity.

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Yup, another good example. After they been wrong on just about every possible issue, from evolution to the flood to the conquest of Canaan to end times to prophecy to civil rights to the fall is it any wonder that atheists ignore Christians?

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I think that is very, very clear from what I said. You can argue anything. That has nothing to do with facts or reality. I don't think I have ever suggested giving in to people. What I suggest is that Christians might consider trying to live a Christian life. Preach by example. It's what you do that testifies. And the testimony that Atheists see most often is what I outlined above.That testimony will not sway anyone to Christianity. Why would anyone want to be associated with the intolerant, the exclusionary, the ignorant, the dishonest and the conman?

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And what does that have to do with anything?The video was only one example. When Christians bring up absurdities like the 350 prophecies, or show their intolerance and bigotry, when they support wilfull ignorance, they do not lead people to Christianity.You asked why atheists don't believe. IMHO the answer is that they look at the visible Christians and say "I simply don't want to be even vaguely associated with the Christians I see."

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I can't think of a single reason for an atheist to believe in a God. There isn't any realy good verifiable evidence there is one, or any strong reason to suppose there might be a God. Most atheists I've had dealings with seem to be pretty reasonable, rational individual, and if they were presented with overwhelming evidence that GOD existed, then would likely accept that fact. But until presented with such evidence, why should they believe?

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I think it is very important to this thread. The topic is " Why Atheists don't believe". If there is absolutely no reason for atheists to believe, then the question is moot.Why shouold anyone believe?The key to me seems to be that there are some who look for answers to questions while others question answers. The former are by definition limited, while the later are by definition unlimited.

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Off topic for this thread robin, but take it to the proper thread and I'll be glad to discuss it with you.

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I'm not sure it's a matter of birth or innate traits. I believe that people can be taught to question, but it is not easy work and it does require tools that many people don't have. But a believer that does not question is as much at a dead end as someone who searchs for answers instead of questions.

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You can do anything you want.What are the tools needed to turn someone into a believer?

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Hell yes. He definitely should continue questioning EVERY answer. Because your answer may be wrong or incorrect.

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Nope, not at all what I meant.

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Nope. Honesty.Edited by jar, : Hit the wrong key before I was finished.

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