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nator
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Message 92 of 110 (315882)
05-29-2006 7:16 AM
Reply to: Message 90 by Faith
05-28-2006 9:43 PM


Re: and please, Faith, respond to this
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Children
Because they cannot give legal consent to anything, although for the vast majority of the history of marriage, men marrying very young girls (and often more than one) was quite common, and it even appears in the Bible.
Do you suggest that we follow the Biblical model of marriage in all aspects, including having multiple wives, the stoning of adulterers and forcing rape victims to marry their rapists?
Or, are you simply being selective in that which you adhere to from the Bible?
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and animals
They also cannot consent to a legal contract.
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and close relations
because it results in genetic problems with offspring.
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don't qualify for marriage. Neither do homosexuals.
I cannot see how two consenting adults who's offspring are not likely to have inbred problems should be denied a civil union just because of your personal and religious prejudice.
Can you provide a better reason than "I don't think they should"?

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nator
Member (Idle past 2170 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 93 of 110 (315883)
05-29-2006 7:25 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by Faith
05-28-2006 9:58 PM


Re: Doesn't this belong on the gay marriage thread?
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But the ideal is a father and a mother.
Again, why do you say this? Based upon what knowledge?
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My super duper reality detector tells me so.
Oh, so you are basing it upon nothing but ignorance and prejudice.
Got it.
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And again, it's common sense. A person with common sense doesn't need research to prove it.
It is common sense that the sun travels around the Earth. It is common sense that the Earth is flat. It is common sense that people with dark skin are inferior in most ways to people with light skin. It is common sense that women are not as smart as men.
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I totally disagree. My super duper reality detector tells me you are wrong.
Common sense never indicated any of these things to anybody. If you hadn't had somebody explain to you at school that the Earth orbits the sun, why would you think that it does?
Do you think that the very primitive tribes deep in the Amazon rainforest think it is "common sense" that the Earth orbits the sun?
No, the reason you believe the above to be false is due to the accumulated knowledge discovered over the centuries by people who questioned so-called "common sense".
It's knowledge, Faith, that informs you regarding those examples I provided, not common sense.
If everybody didn't think they were obvious, why were they held to be obviously true and common sensical for so long?
Like I said, "common sense" is simply accumulated prejudice based upon faulty or incomplete knowledge, and if you, Faith, reject all scientific research, you are doomed to forever form opinions based upon faulty and incomplete knowledge, becoming even more smug and prejudiced in your willful ignorance.
Edited by schrafinator, : No reason given.

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