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Author Topic:   Genesis 1 and 2: The Difference Between Created and Formed
jar
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Message 9 of 210 (318948)
06-07-2006 11:37 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by ramoss
06-07-2006 11:34 PM


It's too bad that there isn't a single original manuscript for any of the Bible. Guess we will never know what it said.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 33 of 210 (320329)
06-10-2006 11:43 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by arachnophilia
06-10-2006 11:35 PM


as i pointed out in the previous thread, animals in particular are created because adam is lonely. adam has to exist, for him to be alone -- the story does not have god saying "well, i know adam WILL be lonely after i create him." it has adam being lonely, god creating animals and bringing them to adam, adam judges them all as unsuitable, and then god creates woman.
What is really funny is just what that says about God. He created them, male and female he created them.
Then it comes to Adam. Adam is lonely, it was not good for him to be alone. But God seems to have forgotten what he had done with all the other critters, male and female he created them. Instead he bring a gnu, and rino, and tiger and likely a gorilla or two for Adam to judge if they make a suitable companion.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 35 of 210 (320353)
06-11-2006 12:12 AM
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06-10-2006 11:50 PM


the stories make very little sense next to each other, don't they?
No they don't. But the people who compiled the stories were not stupid, they too could see the incongruities, yet they included the two mutually exclusive stories. They also placed the newer story first, the older later. The made no attempt to combine them, or make them fit together like they did with the flood myths.
So why? Why include both stories?
There are several possibilites. One is that they were important to to different sects, and so for political reasons both were included.
Another though is that they two stories illustrate two entirely different facets. In Genesis 1 we see a remote and sophisticated God, one that creates and then stands back, an overarching God, one that transcends creation. It also teaches us about the Sabbath.
The story in Genesis 2 and later we see a different facet. The God of Genesis 2 is personal, direct and hands on. Where the God of Genesis 1 is transcendant, the God of Genesis 2 is personal and intimate.
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Message 48 of 210 (327185)
06-28-2006 12:42 PM
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06-28-2006 3:43 AM


on Paul
IIRC Paul was a member of the Pharisees and so would likely have had rabbinical training I suppose.

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