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Author Topic:   In defense of nihilism
CK
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Message 292 of 306 (319189)
06-08-2006 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 289 by robinrohan
06-08-2006 12:26 PM


Re: ck
Ok - as I mentioned previously I'm not interested in any point-scoring or even challenging you on any particular point - so if the questions seem softball - they are intended to be. I'm just interested in the journey that you've been on.
Let me start at the start - have you ever being a believer? in a god? gods?
(by the way this is a chat so if you don't want to answer questions - just say "no comment" or the like) and we will move on.

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CK
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Message 294 of 306 (319194)
06-08-2006 4:22 PM
Reply to: Message 293 by robinrohan
06-08-2006 4:17 PM


Re: ck
So when do you think you first started to think in a serious manner "what's out there/what's not out there?"
I think I was about 13 or 14 - I was nominally christian but the more I read the book, the less it made sense to me (well besides as a story).

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Message 298 of 306 (319205)
06-08-2006 4:42 PM
Reply to: Message 296 by New Cat's Eye
06-08-2006 4:38 PM


Well look - you'd round us out nicely - a believer, an atheist (or maybe I'm a agnostic - we can discuss it) and a nihilist.
So let me ask you the same - how do you come to your faith? has it always been there?
Edited by CK, : No reason given.

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CK
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Message 300 of 306 (319209)
06-08-2006 4:54 PM


Admin input required - near end of thread
Hi - the genesis of the chat that has taken over the tail-end of this thread can be seen here:
http://EvC Forum: Morality and Subjectivity -->EvC Forum: Morality and Subjectivity
I writes:
I've said it before and I'll say it again - everyone we have here is generally pretty convinced of their position. I actually don't know very much about the position that Robin takes and I don't think than a desire to know more has to take place in the normal point-scoring manner we have around here. I think we could do with a few more threads where we just chat.
I am not interested in carrying this on as a debate - this is a dialogue and I am keen to try and keep it this way. It's an opportunity for a couple of us (I'd like Catholic scientist to carry on with us if he'd like as well) to talk out our positions and for others to consider how we got there. It does not require anyone to point out "you are wrong about X,y,z".
Would there be any objection from mod/admin from us carrying this on in the coffee shop or would you prefer it somewhere else?
Edited by CK, : Fix tag.
Edited by CK, : No reason given.

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CK
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Message 302 of 306 (319212)
06-08-2006 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 295 by robinrohan
06-08-2006 4:35 PM


Re: ck
Interesting - I notice that you identify yourself as a "tentative" nihilist - why are you tentative - is it because you think it's impossible for the human mind to know for certain or are you considering "other options"? such as christianity?

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CK
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Message 303 of 306 (319214)
06-08-2006 5:02 PM
Reply to: Message 301 by robinrohan
06-08-2006 4:57 PM


Re: Admin input required - near end of thread
Well let's be honest about it - before I came back I seem to remember I was pretty rude to you on occassion (and I was very very rude to various christians - which Jar did a very good and honest job of pointing out to me). Over my break, I thought - what's the point? surely if we do anything here - it's to try and understand each other a bit better.
Surely that's a worthy objective? I honestly think we need more threads where we honestly ask and listen. Surely that has to lead to both a better understand of our fellow man and a higher quality level of debate?

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Message 304 of 306 (319215)
06-08-2006 5:04 PM
Reply to: Message 299 by New Cat's Eye
06-08-2006 4:51 PM


Follow-up question to Catholic scientist.
Can I ask further - was it a sudden thing or did you came back to god over a period of time?
(as with Robin - please feel free to say "no comment" to any questions you don't want to answer).
Edited by CK, : No reason given.

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