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Topic: June, 2006, Posts of the Month
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John A. Davison 
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Message 16 of 58 (319900)
06-10-2006 7:19 AM
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Reply to: Message 13 by iano
06-09-2006 7:16 PM
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Re: Dear John
iano Why not use your influence to persuade the powers that be here at EvC to invite the two self-appointed, self annointed, "experts" representing the opposing factions in this ongoing debate to join in the "showcase" venue where they too may "sell their products" as I am doing. They would be, as it seems to me, William Dembski and Richard Dawkins. Being an experimental scientist at heart I am willing right now to predict the outcome of this experiment which is all the more reason to perform it. Neither will respond just as they didn't when I offered them the same opportunity. If they should respond it certainly would be "fun" as you put it wouldn't it? Either way I will win and they will lose! Trust me. John, this thread is NOT a discussion thread. Do NOT reply to this message here. Any comments may be taken to the Suggestion Forum or to Message 1. Edited by AdminJar, : JAD starting a discussion with another member in the POTM thread. Content hidden but may be viewed using peek mode.
"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
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iano
Member (Idle past 1962 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: 07-27-2005
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Message 17 of 58 (320933)
06-12-2006 7:55 PM
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Brennakimi in Opinions and Conclusions about Religion and God
Author: Brennakimi Thread: Opinions and Conclusions about Religion and God Message: 7 http:// EvC Forum: Opinions and conclusions about Religion and God. --> EvC Forum: Opinions and conclusions about Religion and God. In a heartbreakingly poignant post, Brennakimi looks around her and with the cry of an anguished heart comes to the only logical conclusion she can:
and i am very close to just abandoning it all. If it is the heart God listens to then I suspect He will not be abandoning her
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Mammuthus
Member (Idle past 6496 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: 08-09-2002
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Message 18 of 58 (321073)
06-13-2006 10:08 AM
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Crashfrog on expertise versus proclaimed knowledge
Author: Crashfrog Forum: Social issues and creation/evolution Thread: The problem with Science II Message: 172 crashfrog makes an excellent point illustrating how many in the fundamentalist community tend to consider their own random musings and personal beliefs as equivalent to the knowledge of scientists who dedicate their lives to the study of specific topics. Concepts like "common knowledge" , "feeling it is right" or principles based on personal anecdotes are exactly what science avoids and is the reason science is the most successful of human endeavors...too bad about 90% of the US population does not realize this. But gratifying to see crashfrog express this point so well. Edited by Mammuthus, : No reason given. Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Made the "172" a link.
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NosyNed
Member Posts: 9003 From: Canada Joined: 04-04-2003
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Message 19 of 58 (321127)
06-13-2006 1:23 PM
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Isana Kadeb for a new (to me ) twist
Message 199 IK asks why, if science must consider the unevidenced designer (UD), other areas of investigation such as forensicists (I know -- I made it up), doctors, accident investigators and the like should not be expected to do the same. This would I think lead to there being "resonable" doubt in all murder cases. This next step in reasoning should have been in the post to finish it off. Edited by AdminNWR, : fixed link
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Parasomnium
Member Posts: 2224 Joined: 07-15-2003
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Message 20 of 58 (321973)
06-15-2006 5:01 PM
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riVeRraT in "On the verge of a break-through"
Author: riVeRraT Forum: [forum=-14] Thread: On the verge of a break-throughMessage: Message 1 For my motivation, see my reply to riVeRraT's post.
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Trixie
Member (Idle past 3727 days) Posts: 1011 From: Edinburgh Joined: 01-03-2004
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Re: riVeRraT in "On the verge of a break-through"
I've done this as a reply to Parasomnium to keep the title intact. I second the nomination, not only for the post, but for the courage he has shown in dealing with these issues. He's faced the difficulties, he's wrestled with the difficulties and whether you agree with his conclusions or not, you have to acknowledge that he's been very honest in his thoughts and in his post. So it's not only a nomination for post of the month, but poster of the month as well.
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anglagard
Member (Idle past 858 days) Posts: 2339 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined: 03-18-2006
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Message 22 of 58 (322111)
06-16-2006 4:08 AM
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Modulous for a Great Analogy (at "Nested Biological Hierarchies" topic)
http:// EvC Forum: Nested Biological Hierarchies --> EvC Forum: Nested Biological Hierarchies I may be too EvC virginal to know if the film analogy hasn't been done before, but its the first time I've seen it and I think it's great. That's what struck me the most but the whole post is excellent IMHO. Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Added the "(at "Nested Biological Hierarchies" topic)" part to the subtitle. Doing such gives some useful information at this POTM topic's index page.
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Parasomnium
Member Posts: 2224 Joined: 07-15-2003
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Message 23 of 58 (322114)
06-16-2006 4:16 AM
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Reply to: Message 22 by anglagard
06-16-2006 4:08 AM
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Re: Modulous for a Great Analogy
Seconded. And to think he only added it later... Modulous usually writes pretty good stuff.
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Modulous
Member Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: 05-01-2005
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Message 24 of 58 (322121)
06-16-2006 5:05 AM
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Reply to: Message 22 by anglagard
06-16-2006 4:08 AM
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Thanks anglagard and SNC
anglagard: Thanks for that - I've not seen the film metaphor used, and basically made it up as I went along (my university life was all about the electronic engineering behind media such as film and television so it was kind of intuitive to me). I remember my physics teacher impressing on me the magnitude of even a 'small' big number like a million in similar terms. SuperNintendo: a belated thanks! I hope that others also enjoyed reading many of the good posts being written in that thread! edit: and thanks Para! *glows in a self-satisfied manner* Edited by Modulous, : No reason given. Edited by Modulous, : No reason given.
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riVeRraT
Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: 05-09-2004
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Re: riVeRraT in "On the verge of a break-through"
Thank you 
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Buzsaw
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Message 26 of 58 (323641)
06-19-2006 11:30 PM
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Ringo Livens It Up. 
Wow. I had to go to page three to find June POMs. Has June been that dull? Anyhow, leave it to Ringo to liven things up with his witty gems. This response to Iano is a dandy! Forum: Is It Science Topic: The definition of Science: What should it be. Message: http:// EvC Forum: The definition of science: What should it be? --> EvC Forum: The definition of science: What should it be? msg20
iano writes:
I thought it was all about evangelising myself. Ringo writes: Evangelizing yourself? You mean even the choir has stopped listening? 
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW
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NosyNed
Member Posts: 9003 From: Canada Joined: 04-04-2003
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Message 27 of 58 (323649)
06-19-2006 11:40 PM
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premature POTM for RASD
Message 74 A new way of looking at how the hierarchies might be developed and then classified. I think it would have been better if he used actual color choices -- just to make it more concrete (red, green, blue etc.) Why is it premature? It hasn't shown that the biological hierarchies are of the same sort. That is, explicitely show they behave like the card example.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 28 of 58 (323677)
06-20-2006 12:40 AM
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Reply to: Message 26 by Buzsaw
06-19-2006 11:30 PM
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Re: Ringo Livens It Up.
Thank you, sir. Once again, style impresses more than substance. 
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Minnemooseus
Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: 11-11-2001 Member Rating: 10.0
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Message 29 of 58 (324129)
06-20-2006 9:48 PM
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Omnivorous, at "Global warming - fact or conspiracy?"
Author: Omnivorous Forum: Coffee House Thread: Global warming - fact or conspiracy? Message: 14 Seems like a nicely done topic so far. I like O's #14.
Omni writes: subbie writes: I would point out that simply "connecting doubting scientists to industry-funded research," if in fact that can be done, is nothing more than the ad hominem fallacy. Simply connecting anything to any other thing would likely be fallacious, but in major areas of science and policy contention, it pays to follow the money. ...and on from there. Moose
Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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RAZD
Member (Idle past 1426 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: 03-14-2004
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Message 30 of 58 (324136)
06-20-2006 10:09 PM
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Reply to: Message 27 by NosyNed
06-19-2006 11:40 PM
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Re: premature POTM for RAZD
thanks. I like being a head of my time. biological hierarchies ... first we have to establish what the nested hierarchy is, then apply it? Edited by RAZD, : test sig revision
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