Is morality absolute or relative?

Your way too easy... I do hold that morality is absolute. And the wages of sin is death. I deserve it as much as the next man, so I don't suggest anyone throw stones...That does not mean that we cannot remind each other that our behavior is sinful. That is not judgement but only telling the truth.You see, the problem with you folks is that you think your good, and this other group or that is bad (or stupid). When in reality we are all bad and we are all stupid...And knowing that doesn't make you smarter, it only makes you irritating to those who prefer to not know and enjoy their pleasures for another day.

I see! You don't personally have a preference?

And you continue to reject the one who will give it to us when he is ready because you would have to stop judging other people and look at your own sin in the mirror of God's law.

So those who work on the Sabbath or draw pictures of fish are irretrievably doomed for their heinous sin. That makes perfect sense....

i'm confused by this a bit, if you mean do i think its right to eat people no i don't, but i'm not a cannibal, if i was i wouldn't think its wrong. its part of who the person is
thats why i don't there are universal standards because too much comes into play when considering right verses wrong
its all grey depending on whats at stake

Your missing so much my friend... we're all condemnded!It just forces us to see our need for a savior.Savior = no judgement! We still deserve it, He just saves us form ourselves. Not complicated. Edited by Rob, : No reason given.

I'm the one judging other people?And I'm fairly aware of my shortcomings. I travelled over 240 miles today. The Sabbath. But somehow I just can't bring myself to give a red rat's ass about making atonement or seeking forgiveness for that.Hell, I'm going to go draw an animal! An easy one, though.

I spent over forty years listening to that bullshit. I've given it up.

What does the Reverend's preferences count? You are talking about absolute standards, not a particular person's preferences.

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"We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the same sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart."
-- H. L. Mencken (quoted on Panda's Thumb)

What does any of that have to do with morality or whether or not it is absolute?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

If you say so. You say you haven't seen the perfect society yet huh?Well when you do it will have perfect people in it... Our shortcomings in my mind are so far from perfection that in that light we are pure evil...Heaven will be heaven because it is perfect. And we have to be perfect to get there. That's why we need Jesus, because He was perfect.

I see a thread closure for off-topic derailment coming soon. And we were so close to red-lining, too!

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"We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the same sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart."
-- H. L. Mencken (quoted on Panda's Thumb)

Because if morality exists, then we are all rightly condemned and in need of mercy.Except for you jar. I don't think God expects Orangutans to act Human in the Godly sense.

What does any of that have to do with morality or whether or not it is absolute?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Again you have not offered anything other than your assertion, and in particular nothing that has anything to do with morality.What is an example of absolute morality?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion