Is morality absolute or relative?

God did not create reason, it is an integral part of His nature. It cannot serve to cover the truth, for it will only expose whatever it covers.In the same way, morality is not an invention of God, but an integral part of His nature. His goodness cannot hide what is bad, but will expose whatever it touches.So reason and morality are inextricably linked. You cannot deny the absolute nature of morality, without deny the reasoning behind your own declaration.It is like saying, 'there is no metaphysical realm'.
That is a metaphysical statement...Or that, 'there is no truth!'
Then that statement is false...Or that, 'there is no God.'
Then you must be omniscient and therefore God....Morality is absolute, and I am right about it!That is why I fled to the cross. Because the truth is, I would be 'rightly' condemned by a 'real' and absolute standard!If you don't believe that, then you are consistent in saying morality is not absolute. I see no moral requirement to be consistent within your framework, yet you are careful to remain so...Let us reason together!Rob

Yes I have jar. Over and over again. You are unable to hear, because you insist that I play by rules that you contend are not real.You then try to hold me accountable to your rules, even though I am free to play by my own.I think we are all accountable to God's rules. Otherwise this exchange is meaningless.I'm not talking about my feelings... but if I am according to you, why do you feel the need to say that I am wrong?

Because if there is not, then what am I wrong about?Edited by Rob, : No reason given.

Absolutes are not something you can prove... They are something you cannot deny without talking nonsense!You cannot prove your existence! How do you know that you are here unless you are omniscient."who are you?" and "Where is here?"You see, we don't have the answers to those questions, but even so, to deny your existence would be the best way to confirm it.Rene Descartes. Only one thing you can't doubt... That there is a doubter doing the doubting.Morality is like that. We cannot deny that it is absolute, without implying that it is immoral to suggest that it is.

My point exactly! It is universal and absolute...

There is no wrong according to you...I have no assurance of salvation. Why do you think I go through all this? I'd be out living it up if I felt good about it.

Welcome to the fundamentalist and judgemental club sucker!Boys, that was like fishing for crappies in a bath tub. Hey Ernie, give the house another round on me!Edited by Rob, : No reason given.

Are you ready jar??????????Is it absolutely true that I am wrong?c'mon i'm waiting... yes or no?Edited by Rob, : No reason given.Edited by Rob, : No reason given.

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