How do creationists explain stars?

ROFL.
When did you last see a three-dimensional circle, Rob?

When did you last see a three-dimensional circle, Rob?Every time I see a sphere, how about you? Now for God who is omnipresent, I do not know how to even describe what such a perspective would be... I suspect he would relate in the simplest manner possible to us. That way, anyone could understand and at the same time, the arrogant could scoff...The bible often refers to the four corners of the Earth, so I'm just noting that Isaiah didn't say that God sits above the 'square' of the earth. It's worth noting...I confess that it is not proof, but it is not proof for either of us.

And "circle" is simpler and less ambiguous than "ball."Right..... On a spherical Earth?[/OT digression]

Well, some conclusions are supported by evidence.

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Yep, you got it... A circle is not necesarily a ball, but a ball is always a circle. It depends on perspective... If you ever go to that mountain you will understand. It's an experiential thing. Sorry for any lack of evidence...

Fine, just change the mass and see what happens.

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If you ever go to that mountain you will understand. It's an experiential thing. Sorry for any lack of evidence...

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I've been on the continental divide twice. What's your point?

Back to topic, Rob:There is a galaxy, M33, that has been measured, by trigonometric methods, to be nearly eight hundred thousand parsecs away from us. That means that light from that galaxy takes about two million years to get here. "Exploding stars," novae, have been seen in M33. They must have gone nova about 2,000,000 years ago, or we couldn't see them yet. Their light wouldn't have reached us.Did the creator fella create light from an event that didn't happen - because it would have happened 1,994,000 years before the "fourth day" in Genesis - just to fool us? Or what's going on? Can you explain that to me?

I don't know! But I think the concept of a fully formed universe is self explanatory.I don't think God fools us per se'. I think we fool ourselves in believing we can prove anything.And that's a remarkable thing when you think about it.Like I said earlier, if I had to understand all this stuff to believe it, then I couldn't even believe I exist. But I have tremendous faith that I do, and that I am typing a reasonable response to your question.We're not God, so why don't you ask Him some of these things?

The CONCEPT makes sense. But then, if it were so, there would be no need for astronomers or physicists or a whole host of scientists who study the Heavens. Everything they've learned is wrong.(:raig

The concept of a fully-formed universe appearing that way a few thousands of years ago is utterly absurd, though. We have libraries full of data that show that all those galaxies out there are VERY OLD. All those stars that you can see at night are VERY OLD - half a million up to twelve billion years old. And the fact that we can see events whose light took millions or billions of years to reach us just eliminates the chance of an "appearance of age" universe unless Loki or Coyote is the God in Charge.Surely the Christian God isn't the Author of Lies, eh?

He never picks up, and never calls back when I leave messages on His machine. You ask, and tell us what He says.

No not everything. In fact look at Galileo... the church wanted to cut his throat, but he was right. The sun rises the sun sets. It is true... Where we run into problems is in interpretation. The church seemed to think it meant that the Earth stood still. They were wrong.Science can do the same thing. Consider Einsteins view: To me it is not the facts that are the problem, it is the lens by which we look at them. --- Patrick Morley

Sorry man, I just don't see the problem when assuming God is omnipotent. That just so happens to be the character of the biblical God.Anything is possible! We must keep an open mind. --Napoleon Bonaparte

Touche'...You have to talk to Him by His rules. First, you must give up your whole life and let Him spiritually possess you. He bought and paid for us. It's just too high a price for a lot of people and sounds really bizarre.