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Buzsaw
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Message 10 of 126 (322070)
06-15-2006 10:43 PM


Re: Makes No Sense Biblically
I go with Wyatt's Biblical compatible discovery, ballast stones and all and down where the cattle and other such animals could disembark safely. He may not have gotten everything right but having heard him lecture where he showed his slides, having read his book and having viewed David Fassold's video on this site, I'm convinced it's the true ark site. Iran makes absolutely no sense Biblically, imo.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 22 of 126 (322418)
06-16-2006 8:34 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by anglagard
06-16-2006 5:42 AM


Re: Bob Cornuke and Rob Wyatt Cranksterism
anglagard writes:
Is there no limit to degrading Christianity for monetary gain these charlatans won't stoop to?
It would help the cause of all humanity if these hucksters were denounced by all Christians, including fundamentalists.
It's not Biblically degrading to Christianity to assume there's archeological evidence out there somewhere of what the Christian Bible claims is it?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 24 of 126 (322435)
06-16-2006 10:30 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by rgb
06-16-2006 3:52 PM


Only One Matches the Biblical Record
rgb writes:
I bet that if we put all the arks people have found together, we could have on our hands a mathematically impossible boat that will trump modern math as we know it.
LOL. There's only one match to the Biblical record and that is the Wyatt site.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 25 of 126 (322437)
06-16-2006 10:41 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by jar
06-16-2006 8:47 PM


Re: Bob Cornuke and Rob Wyatt Cranksterism
1. Nobody has successfully debunked the Wyatt site perse yet, though there are debatable Wyatt specifics about things studied at the site which would likely be the case no matter who discovered it.
2. Like the chariot wheels in the Gulf of Aqaba of the Red Sea, secularists really don't want to find good evidence of Biblical stuff. They decline to even seriously research the sites, much like the Pharasees who wanted to kill both Jesus and Lazarus after witnessing the miraculous even, for to admit would be to admit they are wrong and Jesus was indeed the OT prophesied messiah......and for that matter much like Jar and others of EvC who've seen the evidence for the Exodus crossing complete with the corroborating stuff needed and find every imaginable excuse to debunk it or seriously investigate. .

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Buzsaw
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Message 29 of 126 (322447)
06-16-2006 11:15 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by jar
06-16-2006 10:52 PM


Re: Bob Cornuke and Rob Wyatt Cranksterism
Jar writes:
Bullhockey. I personally have debunked every single bit of evidence that has been brought up, the petroglyphs pictures he doctored, the calf altar he claimed to find, the guard shack, the wgaon wheels, all of it. The man may have been simply delusional, but that is the most gracious thing that can be said about him.
Jar, the only one you've personally convinced of every bit is yourself. LOL on the bogus boast. Your imagination is wonderful.
Jar writes:
Finding chariot wheels there is not evidence of the Exodus myth. Hell, you should find such things all over the damn area.
But you don't find them all over the damn area. You only find them amongst the vital corroborating evidence as per the Biblical record.
Jar writes:
There is no excuse needed to debunk the evidence, there is NO evidence to debunk. Only someone totally gullible, willing to totally suspend critical analysis could ever believe ANY of Ron Wyatts asinine claims.
You're intellectually blind Jar with those blinders you put on when the evidence is provided for Biblical stuff.
Jar writes:
If you want to start yet another thread on Ron Wyatt's alleged evidence please do so. I still have links to most of the FACTS and will be happy to address each so called pieces of evidence.
How about another Great Debate whopping by ole Buz, this time on the Exodus crossing at Nuweiba, as to whether's there's evidence or not for the credibility of a viable hypothesis as per the Biblical record? Notice that like in other science, I didn't say proof I said viable evidence which you claim to have debunked as myth, i.e. imperically falsified.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 35 of 126 (322459)
06-17-2006 12:20 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by jar
06-16-2006 11:23 PM


Re: Imperial Debunker
Since you claim to be the imperial debunker of it all I would require a GD between you and me. You said you have the archived refutations of everything by you. Produce them in GD opener and we'll have it out, you and me. I'm off to bed now and out of town much of tomorrow, but you can go ahead and produce your stuff.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 60 of 126 (322754)
06-17-2006 10:30 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by DP
06-17-2006 8:46 PM


Re: The Kasich Fox News Concensus
Hi DP. Welcome To EvC. I intended to watch the Fox Kasich segment and totally forgot. Would you mind sharing what Kasich's consencus of the story was and what was covered? Thanks.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 61 of 126 (322762)
06-17-2006 10:59 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by jar
06-17-2006 5:30 AM


Re: Imperial Debunker
Jar writes:
No buz. I will not hold another Great Debate with you. But if you wish to discuss it in an open thread I am happy to participate, just start a thread.
You made the claim that you alone debunked every single bit of the evidence and that there's evidence in the archives to prove it. I'm saying if that be the case, you alone should be able to easily win a one on one debate with the one claiming otherwise or otherwise retract your bogus claim.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 64 of 126 (322861)
06-18-2006 9:50 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by jar
06-18-2006 9:33 AM


Re: So on a new day ...
I'm not interested in another Exodus open thread at this time. Maybe in the future after I finish Moller's book, the one who did the marine research at Neweiba. All I'm interested at this time is to call you on your false boast that you yourself have imperically falsified every single item in the Exodus evidence to the point of myth status, implying that I, creo scientists and the fundie Christian community are believing in and supporting myths. The only way to settle that would be a one on one debate. That's a false highly exaggerated claim and imo it should be retracted.
Abe: Jar's statement: "I personally have debunked every single bit of evidence that has been brought up, the petroglyphs pictures he doctored, the calf altar he claimed to find, the guard shack, the wgaon wheels, all of it."
".......every bit of evidence.......all of it." What does that not include?
Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 77 of 126 (323060)
06-18-2006 10:46 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by jar
06-18-2006 10:04 AM


Re: So on a new day ...
Ron Wyatt who has been deceased for some time was only the one who pioneered the discovery of both the ark site and the Neweiba crossing. It was Moller and others who did the Exodus research with more scientific expertise and equipment. You seem to be forgetting that. You have a long, long way to go before you can claim emperical falsification of every single thing. You're being blatantly boastful.

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Buzsaw
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Message 78 of 126 (323064)
06-18-2006 10:53 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by DP
06-18-2006 6:26 PM


Re: The Kasich Fox News Concensus
Thanks much, DP for the rundown. It appears that i didn't miss much.

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Buzsaw
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Message 80 of 126 (323068)
06-18-2006 10:59 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by ramoss
06-18-2006 7:47 PM


Re: Viewing the Evidence
ramos writes:
For example, no one can view the "ark of covenent" , no one has been able to look at the 'wheel' that wsa from the parting of the red sea.
Frankly.. if the evidence for the claims can not be produced, the claims are false.
Evidence was produced. You can view the Exodus video which shows evidence of coral crusted objects shaped like chariot wheels and axles. You can view the ark site and ballast stones in the Ararat foothills. You can view the beach and geographical stuff which is corroborating evidence et al. On and on I could go but this is not the thread for that.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 81 of 126 (323072)
06-18-2006 11:11 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by jar
06-18-2006 10:55 PM


Re: So on a new day ...
Better yet Jar, open a thread and prove you have imperically falsified every single bit of evidence. For that matter simply show that you have imperically falsified the research of Moller and others at Neweiba and the region to the status of myth. LOL!

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 82 of 126 (323074)
06-18-2006 11:12 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by jar
06-18-2006 10:55 PM


Re: So on a new day ...
Better yet Jar, open a thread and prove you have imperically falsified every single bit of evidence. For that matter simply show that you have imperically falsified the research of Moller and others at Neweiba and the region to the status of myth. LOL!

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 90 of 126 (324150)
06-20-2006 11:22 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by ramoss
06-19-2006 8:33 AM


Re: Viewing the Evidence
As I have stated before, secularists seem to have no interest or desire in searching and researching the Nuweiba crossing, the wheels or any of the corroborating stuff in the region. So it's not in the reveiws to my knowledge. You tell me why they aren't in there debunking Moeller. Where is Geographic's Ballard when he's needed?? LOL on that. Verifying it might upset the whole secularist applecart. Perhaps one of them will go in there and destroy the evidence, but it's unlikely they could get it all. Evidence of the wheels was found on both shores by two different researchers, one a Norwegian woman on the east side and Moeller of Sweden on the west.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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