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Buzsaw
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Message 91 of 126 (324156)
06-20-2006 11:38 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by Brian
06-20-2006 7:41 AM


Re: GD Wyatt's Aqaba
Hi Brian. Please understand that what I wanted to do with Jar is to call him on his bogus boast that he himself had previously empirically debunked every bit of the Exodus stuff at Nuweiba and the region and reduced it all, I say "all" to the status of "myth" and some other adjectives he used. I am not claiming to have proven anything, but imo the evidence produced by me, Lysimacus and others was sufficient to claim it as a viable hypothesis worthy of some scientific and archeological significance.
I finally got Moeller's book and have begun to read it. After I finish it, I would likely be willing to do a GD with you on the Exodus itself. I am not however studied up enough on the Egyptian dynasties to debate you on that. There is, imo a lot of yet unsolved mysteries in that area of the debate due to a number of factors.
Thanks for the invitation and btw I hope your problem with admin is getting resolved. We all appreciate the contribution you bring to EvC, whether we agree or not on the issues.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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PaulK
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Message 92 of 126 (324173)
06-21-2006 2:05 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by Buzsaw
06-20-2006 11:38 PM


Re: GD Wyatt's Aqaba
quote:
I am not claiming to have proven anything, but imo the evidence produced by me, Lysimacus and others was sufficient to claim it as a viable hypothesis worthy of some scientific and archeological significance.
Which evidence was that ? The coral foramtions ? They weren't very good (if they contained wheels at all they were likely not from chariots) and everything else was worse.
quote:
I am not however studied up enough on the Egyptian dynasties to debate you on that.
Don't worry, it doesn't take much to see that Wyatt and Moeller don't know what they are talking about on that subject. If you really think that Moeller is a careful investigator perhaps you coud explain why he fell for that load of rubbish. Didn't he check Wyatt's claims at all ?>

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CK
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Message 93 of 126 (324181)
06-21-2006 2:50 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by Buzsaw
06-20-2006 11:38 PM


Re: GD Wyatt's Aqaba
quote:
but imo the evidence produced by me, Lysimacus and others was sufficient to claim it as a viable hypothesis worthy of some scientific and archeological significance.
This most be evidence in a different reality because I don't remember seeing it. Lysimacus was reduced to saying "wait til you see the evidence you'll all be convinced.. It will be revealed sometime in the future". That was it - that was all he had - that and some handwaving about bad photos and experts with no names.

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CK
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Message 94 of 126 (324183)
06-21-2006 2:58 AM
Reply to: Message 90 by Buzsaw
06-20-2006 11:22 PM


Re: Viewing the Evidence
quote:
As I have stated before, secularists seem to have no interest or desire in searching and researching the Nuweiba crossing, the wheels or any of the corroborating stuff in the region. So it's not in the reveiws to my knowledge. You tell me why they aren't in there debunking Moeller.
That's a bit of a naughty claim considering most christian organizations think Wyatt was a fruitcake and a fraud. So please don't try and say this is secular against religious because it's not. Most of the sites you find on the matter are by christians.

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RickJB
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Message 95 of 126 (324192)
06-21-2006 3:40 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by Buzsaw
06-20-2006 11:38 PM


Re: GD Wyatt's Aqaba
Buz writes:
Please understand that what I wanted to do with Jar is to call him on his bogus boast that he himself had previously empirically debunked every bit of the Exodus stuff.....
Then for Pete's sake just start a thread and see if he debunks them! The longer you stretch this point the more you look like you're hedging!

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Brian
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Message 96 of 126 (324210)
06-21-2006 6:46 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by Buzsaw
06-20-2006 11:38 PM


Re: GD Wyatt's Aqaba
No probs Buzz, just let me know when you are ready, take your time there is no rush on my part.
Thanks for the invitation and btw I hope your problem with admin is getting resolved. We all appreciate the contribution you bring to EvC, whether we agree or not on the issues.
I think the problem is resolved now, my request to delete the AdminBrian account might have done the trick.
Thanks for the support.
Brian.

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Brian
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Message 97 of 126 (324211)
06-21-2006 6:48 AM
Reply to: Message 93 by CK
06-21-2006 2:50 AM


And Noah's Ark...
Didn't Lysimachus say somehting a while ago about some new evidence for Noah's Ark, and 'wait till you see this evidence'?
Must be over a year ago!
Brian.

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CK
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Message 98 of 126 (324213)
06-21-2006 6:56 AM
Reply to: Message 97 by Brian
06-21-2006 6:48 AM


Re: And Noah's Ark...
Iano writes:
Didn't Lysimachus say somehting a while ago about some new evidence for Noah's Ark, and 'wait till you see this evidence'?
We went through a period where he would turn up every 6 weeks or so and say "You people are going to feel really stupid once you have seen the evidence I've seen". - Of course when pushed, he could never produce the evidence....
Lysimachus (if I remember correctly) also used to quote the findings of "an expert" about the wheels. When pushed for the name of the expert, we were told that this was not an important detail and that we should just accept that the man was an expert!
I've seen him about on a few other forums and the response to his "evidence" is always the same.

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jar
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Message 99 of 126 (324313)
06-21-2006 10:16 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by CK
06-21-2006 6:56 AM


Re: And Noah's Ark...
He now is the director of the WAR forum.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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CK
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Message 100 of 126 (324323)
06-21-2006 10:35 AM
Reply to: Message 99 by jar
06-21-2006 10:16 AM


Re: And Noah's Ark...
And a hotbed of hard science it is too:
poster1 writes:
We know that in the bible - during the flood a wind blow the water out in to space. When Noah was still inside the ark.
poster2 writes:
I'm a pretty tough skeptic when it comes to unique theories trying to figure out the mechanics behind the flood... but this theory has no flaws. None... Anyway, you'll find that any ice we find in our solar system can actually be traced back to Earth, and the Flood.
Sounds crazy, I know, but it's astounding how easily it comes together. It's a lot of reading though.

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rgb
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Message 101 of 126 (324406)
06-21-2006 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by jar
06-21-2006 10:16 AM


Re: And Noah's Ark...
Good God!

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PaulK
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Message 102 of 126 (324416)
06-21-2006 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by CK
06-21-2006 6:56 AM


Re: And Noah's Ark...
Wyatt supporters tend to have a...unique... way of assessing evidence
For instance on the list of "similarities: that supposedly support the idea that Senmut was Moses Lysimachus was incredibly impressed that Josephus stated that Moses had lead an army fighting in Nubia and that there was some evidence that Senmut had also served as a soldier fighting in Nubia. Never mind that the stories didn't even match up, rar we couldn't even say that it was the same war and that armies even at that time tended to include more than a few men.
Presumably he also thinks that General Montgomery was Henry the 5th - after all, we know that both actually lead British forces fighting in France....

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DP
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Message 103 of 126 (324600)
06-21-2006 9:17 PM


Some Pictures from Cornuke
Some pictures have been released by Cornuke. Looks like he is also going to be on tour talking about all this.
http://www.worldviewweekend.com/secure/cwnetwork/article.php

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jar
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Message 104 of 126 (324603)
06-21-2006 9:21 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by DP
06-21-2006 9:17 PM


Re: Some Pictures from Cornuke
Looks like the same sorry pictures found above. What a joke. I can't believe there are enough gullible folk to even fill one auditorium.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Buzsaw
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Message 105 of 126 (324629)
06-21-2006 10:23 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by CK
06-21-2006 2:58 AM


Re: Ignoring the Evidence
CK writes:
That's a bit of a naughty claim considering most christian organizations think Wyatt was a fruitcake and a fraud. So please don't try and say this is secular against religious because it's not. Most of the sites you find on the matter are by christians.
How many times do I need to say some of Wyatt's and most of Moeller's Biblical archeological research does have evidence and regardless of what anyone thinks about Wyatt, most of his critics refuse to even try to look at it to see if some of the more significant of it is credible or not?
How many times do I need to say that Wyatt was the pioneer of some significant Biblical related exploration evidence without the expertise or equipment, but others with better expertise and equipment have verified the existence of some, (I say 'some') evidence which secularist experts refuse to look at?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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