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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 1 of 12 (32528)
02-18-2003 4:49 AM


How long would it take to travel 16 000 light years at the speed of sound?
Please show your math as best as possible.
Admin please delete this as soon as I get an answer.
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Primordial Egg
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Message 2 of 12 (32531)
02-18-2003 5:12 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by funkmasterfreaky
02-18-2003 4:49 AM


Hi Funkster,
Well, very approximately...
speed of sound = 330 m/s
speed of light = 300,000,000 m/s
so...
time it takes to go 16,000 ly at the speed of sound:
= 300,000,000*16,000/330
= 14.5*10^9 years (14.5 billion years) i.e more than the age of the universe (especially so if you're a YEC)
Why would you want to know this though, if you don't mind me asking? It seems like a bit of a pointless question.
PE

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shilohproject
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Message 3 of 12 (32548)
02-18-2003 9:44 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Primordial Egg
02-18-2003 5:12 AM


Is this the speed of sound in space, at sea level, under water...?

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John
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Message 4 of 12 (32552)
02-18-2003 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by shilohproject
02-18-2003 9:44 AM


Sea level, give or take. The speed of sound varies with density.
There is no sound in space-- yes, Hollywood has lied to you -- and hence no speed of sound in space, btw.
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 5 of 12 (32591)
02-18-2003 4:25 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Primordial Egg
02-18-2003 5:12 AM


Thanx, It seemed a pointless question to me too. My brother asked me and I'm not sure why he wanted to know.
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Message 6 of 12 (32593)
02-18-2003 4:50 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by funkmasterfreaky
02-18-2003 4:25 PM


Curious that the answer is pretty much the current estimate for the age of the universe. Seems like that 16,000 light-year figure was pretty specially selected. Yikes, shades of intelligent design!
--Percy

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Message 7 of 12 (33341)
02-27-2003 4:09 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Percy
02-18-2003 4:50 PM


Perhaps they wanted to know when we would hear the
big bang.
Shame that in space no-one can hear you scream

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zipzip
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Message 8 of 12 (33412)
02-28-2003 5:08 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by John
02-18-2003 10:14 AM


Well...there is no audible sound in space. But there is no perfect vacuum anywhere (a few hydrogen/helium atoms here and there). So for extremely large-scale, high-amplitude displacements there should be some (extremely low frequency) sound, sort of. And if you had an enormous ear and a lot of patience perhaps you could hear it.

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John
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Message 9 of 12 (33424)
02-28-2003 8:57 AM
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02-28-2003 5:08 AM


I don't think so. If atoms are too far apart they aren't going to form a wave, there isn't going to be a sound.
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zipzip
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Message 10 of 12 (33499)
03-02-2003 3:40 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by John
02-28-2003 8:57 AM


That is the point of extremely large-scale displacements of the medium -- so that the degree of rarefaction and compression are such that wave propagation occurs.

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John
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Message 11 of 12 (33502)
03-02-2003 10:19 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by zipzip
03-02-2003 3:40 AM


Well... I found a good source supporting your view, so I must concede.
IMAGE Science Center: File Not Found
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zipzip
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Message 12 of 12 (33665)
03-04-2003 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by John
03-02-2003 10:19 AM


Neat post.

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