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Author Topic:   A few on the 10 Commandments
compmage
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Joined: 08-04-2005


Message 1 of 9 (32209)
02-14-2003 5:53 AM


This is a copy of an email I recieved a while ago that I came across again today. Thought some of you might enjoy poking some holes in it, or supporting it (as the case may be).
quote:

THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
1. I AM THE Lord your God You shall have no other gods before Me.
Forbids Polytheism, pantheism and atheism.
Right implied: freedom of worship
2. You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything you shall not bow down to them or worship them.
Forbids: Idolatry of statues, icons, pictures, people or false religions
Right implied: The right to know God’s will to do it.
3. You shall not misuse the Name of the Lord your God for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses His Name.
Forbids: Profanity, false prophesies and blasphemy
Right implied: Freedom of speech
4. Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labour and do all your work.
Forbids desecration of the Lord’s Day.
Right Implied: The right to work and to rest.
5. Honour your father and your mother.
Forbids disrespect, dishonor and disobedience towards our parents and any one in authority over us.
Right implied: Respect for authority.
6. You shall not murder.
Forbids murder, suicide, abortion and euthanasia.
Right implied: The right to life.
7. You shall not commit adultery
Forbids Fornication, adultery, pornography, perversion and homosexuality.
Right implied: The sanctity of marriage.
8. You shall not steal.
Forbids Theft, fraud. Socialism, laziness and vandalism.
Right implied: Private ownership of property.
9. You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
Forbids Perjury, gossip and slander.
Right implied: The right to have one’s name protected from slander.
10. You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbor.
Forbids coveting, envy, greed, selfishness and socialism.
Right implied: Freedom of conscience.
THE NEW TEN COMMANDMENTS
Humanists have not actually abolished the Ten Commandments. They've just replaced God’s Law with their own rules. You shall not be intolerant of other religions, beliefs or views — except for Christianity of course. You shall not read the Bible or pray in
government schools. (However sex education, even in primary schools, must become mandatory.) You may never take the names of Darwin, Marx, Mao or Mandela in vain. (However cursing and ridiculing the names of Jesus Christ and His followers is an essential aspect of free speech.) Remember to keep holy Human Rights Day, Workers Day, Women’s Day and Youth Day. (However, do be sure to go shopping on the Lord’s Day and plan other activities for Good Friday, Easter, Ascension Day and Xmas!) Honour your Mother Earth and Father State. You shall not defend yourself against assailants and rapists nor may you allow convicted murderers to be executed. (However, you may kill helpless infants through abortion and the incurable and very old people through euthanasia. In fact don't stop with them — once you realize what a burden you have become to Mother Earth you may want to request a physician assisted suicide.) You shall not call it adultery, fornication, homosexuality pornography or perversion. Don't be so
bigoted and judgmental! If it feels good do it. Don't consider the
consequences for yourself or your spouse or children or society in general. Give free expression to every lust and craving and call it an "alternative lifestyle." Do not steal because the government hates competition. Pay all the taxes we demand from you- even if you don't receive any services back from the government. If you must steal, take from the hard working middle class bourgeois — just leave nough for us to get our taxes out of them too. You may not tell the truth or preach the Gospel to your neighbours for that may offend them. You shall not offend your neighbour or suggest that he is wrong (Unless he is a Christian — then he deserves any abuse). You shall not think differently from what the State TV tells you what to think, for
deviation from the politically correct position is intolerable.

The email contained the name, address and telephone number of a South African Church. I have not been able to establish if they are the actual authors and so have removed them to spare the church concerened should they not be the authors.
Admin - If you want me to include the churches name for copy right purposes I will.
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Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the Western Spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun. Orbiting this at a distance of roughly ninety-eight million miles is an utterly insignificant little blue-green planet whose ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea.
- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

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Primordial Egg
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Message 2 of 9 (32210)
02-14-2003 6:03 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by compmage
02-14-2003 5:53 AM


There's just too much in there to take apart. If someone spoke to me like that, I'd call the police.
One small point:
quote:
You may never take the names of Darwin, Marx, Mao or Mandela in vain.
Mandela??? I can understand the rest, but what has Mandela got to do with anything? Is he perceived as some sort of infidel idol in SA?
PE

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compmage
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Posts: 601
From: South Africa
Joined: 08-04-2005


Message 3 of 9 (32211)
02-14-2003 6:15 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Primordial Egg
02-14-2003 6:03 AM


Primordial Egg writes:
quote:

Mandela??? I can understand the rest, but what has Mandela got to do with anything? Is he perceived as some sort of infidel idol in SA?

Not sure about infidel idol, but he is highly respected and more than likely idolized by a portion of the population. What his religious beliefs are I have no idea.
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Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the Western Spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun. Orbiting this at a distance of roughly ninety-eight million miles is an utterly insignificant little blue-green planet whose ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea.
- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

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John
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Message 4 of 9 (32222)
02-14-2003 9:24 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by compmage
02-14-2003 5:53 AM


That is strange.
It is interesting that every "implied right of .... " is actually a restriction on actions-- very bizarre twist.
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No webpage found at provided URL: www.hells-handmaiden.com

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compmage
Member (Idle past 5153 days)
Posts: 601
From: South Africa
Joined: 08-04-2005


Message 5 of 9 (32316)
02-15-2003 3:50 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by John
02-14-2003 9:24 AM


John writes:
quote:

It is interesting that every "implied right of .... " is actually a restriction on actions-- very bizarre twist.

And many of the 'forbids' actually have nothing to do with the commandment.
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Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the Western Spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun. Orbiting this at a distance of roughly ninety-eight million miles is an utterly insignificant little blue-green planet whose ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea.
- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

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John
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Message 6 of 9 (32327)
02-15-2003 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by compmage
02-15-2003 3:50 AM


quote:
And many of the 'forbids' actually have nothing to do with the commandment.
You mean like the way "Thou shalt not steal" forbids Socialism? LOL...
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No webpage found at provided URL: www.hells-handmaiden.com

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compmage
Member (Idle past 5153 days)
Posts: 601
From: South Africa
Joined: 08-04-2005


Message 7 of 9 (32402)
02-17-2003 1:36 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by John
02-15-2003 11:36 AM


John writes:
quote:

You mean like the way "Thou shalt not steal" forbids Socialism? LOL...

Yes and how "Thou shalt not commit adultery" forbids homosexuality.
Hell everything under that one except for adultery...
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Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the Western Spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun. Orbiting this at a distance of roughly ninety-eight million miles is an utterly insignificant little blue-green planet whose ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea.
- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

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derwood
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Message 8 of 9 (32595)
02-18-2003 5:21 PM


I have seen similar things in the past.
Typical fundie stupidity.

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compmage
Member (Idle past 5153 days)
Posts: 601
From: South Africa
Joined: 08-04-2005


Message 9 of 9 (32624)
02-19-2003 12:29 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by derwood
02-18-2003 5:21 PM


SLPx writes:
quote:

I have seen similar things in the past.
Typical fundie stupidity.

I wonder if it is stupidity or just that their beliefs are held with such conviction that it overrides normal rational thinking.
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Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the Western Spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun. Orbiting this at a distance of roughly ninety-eight million miles is an utterly insignificant little blue-green planet whose ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea.
- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

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