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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 228 of 300 (326524)
06-26-2006 4:43 PM
Reply to: Message 224 by Syamsu
06-24-2006 6:48 PM


Re: That is a cheap shot
So it may well be that in some time the Darwinist discipline simply co-opts your postion to such a large extent, so to make your weak reference to God on the side of your theory meaningless.
Hi Sy:
The evolutionists set themselves up in place of God and speak for nature and assert ex nihilo (random mutation) is the creator of diversity. Thats all evolution is: spontaneous generation based on their educational credentials. Creationists have a source for ex nihilo and they don't.
I have asked Davison repeatedly (to no avail) as to what or who determines or perscribes his theory. Can you answer for him ?
Ray Martinez

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Message 237 of 300 (326877)
06-27-2006 3:34 PM
Reply to: Message 229 by John A. Davison
06-26-2006 5:09 PM


Meet the New Boss Same as the Old Boss
Prof. Davison writes:
I have already answered that question. I said the source was one or more intelligences far beyond our power to comprehend.
You are consistently flip-flopping.
I can produce quotes FROM THIS thread where you speak against God and for God. Your most recent quotes are clearly against God WHILE re-defining the deity other than understood meaning. I see no reason to paste these quotes AGAIN and AGAIN as you ignore them AGAIN and AGAIN.
Prof. Davison writes:
I said the source was one or more intelligences far beyond our power to comprehend.
How is it that these "intelligences" can produce the wonder of nature which baffles our most intelligent minds (who can speak) but the same in unable ?
How can "intelligences" produce bat sonar and eyes and voice boxes but the same cannot speak itself ?
What is your source for information about "God" or these "intelligences" ?
You are literally no different than Stanford anthropologist Jeremy Narby, who has documented the "intelligences" exhibited in nature, yet, being the atheist-Darwinist that he is, asserts contrary to his research and concludes nature does not show evidence of God.
Dawkins, "Blind Watchmaker", (1986) LAST paragraph in the book:
Context: Large series of ultra-small cumulative steps of synthesis defined natural selection negates all astronomical improbabilities and vast geological time to accomplish the same.
"It is the contention of the Darwinian world-view that both of these provisos are met, and that slow, gradual, cumulative natural selection is the ultimate explanation of our existence. If there are versions of the evolution theory that deny slow gradualism, and deny the central role of natural selection, they may be true in particular cases. But they cannot be the whole truth, for they deny the very heart of the evolution theory, which gives it the power to dissolve astronomical improbabilities and explain prodigies of apparent miracle."
Atheist needs "give it that power"; not objective scientific facts available for everyone to confirm.
Those "prodigies of apparent miracle" were meticulously documented by Dawkins (bat sonar, eye, electric fish). EvC member EZ Science admitted he was completely ignorant to these BASIC CLAIMS of evolutionary theory....a complete nobody hiding behind anonymity dismissing Mr. Evolution Professor Richard Dawkins.
Natural Selection is TOUTED as producing the (admitted) miraculous organisms of nature = atheists stealing the patent rights from God. The same murdered hundreds of millions persons in Communist Russia, China, and Southeast Asia so I guess persons capable of genocide are capable of stealing quite easily. ToE was instantly accepted by Russia and made its quickest advances in this nation after the death of Darwin. We know the Third Reich were wholly Darwinists as they, believing we are advanced apes, selected the Jewish race to be selected out of existence. Hitler (like TEists) also claimed to be a Christian.
Prof. Davison:
You have chastised atheist-Darwinism with just cause. Their idiotic atheism packaged as science proves if a person accepts the same they are suffering a penalty from God for denying Him Creator credit. TEists comfort themselves that they are Christians. Judas thought the same and so did creationist Pharisees, they THOUGHT they were right with God when in fact, we know, the Bible says, they were the enemies of Christ.
Your constant condemnation of atheist-Darwinism is understood and explained in the following light:
Dr. Gene Scott (Ph.D. Philosophy and Religion; Ph.D. minors in Geography, Comparitive Religion and Psychology)
"We overtly condemn that which we are covertly guilty of the most."
You are guilty Prof. Davison of the exact same thing that you condemn the Darwinists for. They take God's place and claim their intellect produced the miracles of creation and you do the exact same. You are a common atheist hiding behind an agnostic label. There is no difference between an agnostic and an atheist. We know this is true since their arguments and beliefs match each other. At least declared atheists are honest unlike agnostic atheists like yourself - total fucking liars.
Ray Martinez, Protestant Evangelical Paulinist
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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 241 of 300 (327013)
06-27-2006 11:16 PM
Reply to: Message 239 by Admin
06-27-2006 8:07 PM


Re: Meet the New Boss Same as the Old Boss
Admin writes:
Just as you have say over who participates in your thread, John has say over who participates in his.
Perhaps you should start another thread so you have two going at the same time. There's nothing that restricts the number of threads you have here in Showcase. Maybe the pyramid topic still interests you.
Yes, understood.
Ray

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Message 251 of 300 (328091)
07-01-2006 7:24 PM


For The Record
DaveScot has told me that Prof. Davison was banned at Uncommon Descent for repeatedly posting vulgarities and not for any scientific views or disagreements with other persons.
We can confirm this assertion by Prof. Davison's behavior here.
Ray...you have been asked not to participate in John's thread. Please respect that request. - The Queen
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Ray Martinez
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