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MangyTiger
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Message 181 of 298 (326608)
06-26-2006 8:04 PM
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06-26-2006 8:07 AM


Re: OK, here are some figures
Elephants need 300 pounds of food each per day (minimum).
It's harder to get a figure for water consumption - estimates seem to be in the 180 to 230 litres per day range (40 to 51 UK gallons or 48 to 61 US gallons). We'll go for the minimum of 48 US gallons.
So for two elephants we have:
2*300*365 = 219000 pounds of food.
2*48*365 = 35040 gallons of drinking water

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Coragyps
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Message 182 of 298 (326625)
06-26-2006 8:30 PM
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06-26-2006 8:04 PM


Re: OK, here are some figures
So that's 200,000+ pounds of elephant poop.....

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CK
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Message 183 of 298 (326626)
06-26-2006 8:32 PM
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06-26-2006 8:30 PM


Re: OK, here are some figures
I need to goto bed after some good Alan Moore news but I have an idea that we can put into practice tomorrow.

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nwr
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Message 184 of 298 (326633)
06-26-2006 8:43 PM
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06-26-2006 8:30 PM


Re: OK, here are some figures
So that's 200,000+ pounds of elephant poop.....
When you remember all of the other animals, then those 8 zookeepers would be shovelling it all day, and they wouldn't be able to keep up.

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arachnophilia
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Message 185 of 298 (326635)
06-26-2006 8:47 PM
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06-26-2006 8:43 PM


Re: OK, here are some figures
man, i've had some bad jobs in my time, but i never...

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Crue Knight
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Message 186 of 298 (326644)
06-26-2006 9:07 PM


Elephants need 300 pounds of food each per day (minimum).
It's harder to get a figure for water consumption - estimates seem to be in the 180 to 230 litres per day range (40 to 51 UK gallons or 48 to 61 US gallons). We'll go for the minimum of 48 US gallons.
So for two elephants we have:
2*300*365 = 219000 pounds of food.
2*48*365 = 35040 gallons of drinking water
You guys probably would say this is not scientific (which is not), but God was involved in all this. The Bible isn't a science book. Perhaps He sent manna or whatever to the ark to feed the animals? The also could have fished for food. Maybe God made a miracle like Christ did at the mountain when he fed the crowd, keeping the animals stomaches full with little or no food?
Different possibilities.
Like I said the Bible doesn't explain everything unless God wanted to let us know.
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nator
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Message 187 of 298 (326650)
06-26-2006 9:19 PM
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06-26-2006 9:07 PM


quote:
You guys probably would say this is not scientific (which is not), but God was involved in all this. The Bible isn't a science book. Perhaps He sent manna or whatever to the ark to feed the animals? The also could have fished for food. Maybe God made a miracle like Christ did at the mountain when he fed the crowd, keeping the animals stomaches full with little or no food?
Different possibilities.
Like I said the Bible doesn't explain everything unless God wanted to let us know.
Well sure.
If the Creationists simply wanted to say that they believe that the Flood happened and Noah's Ark had all the animals in it, and God magicked it all to turn out OK, etc. etc., and that they realize that there is no evidence that would compell anyone who didn't already believe the story to believe it, then that would be perfectly OK with us.
What they are doing, however, is trying to show how it could have really happened, that science supports their claims, and therefore the Bible is scientifically legitimized as the literal historical truth.
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Crue Knight
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Message 188 of 298 (326658)
06-26-2006 9:37 PM
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06-26-2006 9:19 PM


quote:
Edited by AdminJar, 06-26-2006 06:26 PM: No reason given.
Umm...why are the Admins keep editing our posts? And no reason given? Please, guys.
What they are doing, however, is trying to show how it could have really happened, that science supports their claims, and therefore the Bible is scientifically legitimized as the literal historical truth.
Yes, like I said before: Aquatic animals found on the top of high mountains. There are more evidence that I've heard of, but I havent studied it's truth thouroughly enough to say any more at this moment.

Read "Time Has an End" by, H. Camping for great evdence that the Bible is true and the word of God. You can read it online at Time Has An End

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jar
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Message 189 of 298 (326664)
06-26-2006 9:47 PM
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06-26-2006 9:37 PM


The answer...
Umm...why are the Admins keep editing our posts? And no reason given? Please, guys.
To fix the formatting. You used [u] in one of your posts, it was quoted later. [u] does not work, so it left unbalanced codes meant that Scraf's quote didn't work.
We just try to clean up after folk.

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nwr
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Message 190 of 298 (326665)
06-26-2006 9:47 PM
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06-26-2006 9:37 PM


Umm...why are the Admins keep editing our posts? And no reason given? Please, guys.
I'm guessing. Probably the quoting was messed up, and the Admin fixed it. If you preview your message before posting, that's less likely to happen.

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arachnophilia
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Message 191 of 298 (326670)
06-26-2006 10:04 PM
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06-26-2006 9:47 PM


it was schraf's message that was bonkered. the [u] tag broke the [quote] tags. (i saw the earlier message)


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ReverendDG
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Message 192 of 298 (326706)
06-27-2006 12:57 AM
Reply to: Message 188 by Crue Knight
06-26-2006 9:37 PM


Yes, like I said before: Aquatic animals found on the top of high mountains. There are more evidence that I've heard of, but I havent studied it's truth thouroughly enough to say any more at this moment.
the thing is creationists like to say the flood happened and the earth shows that the story is true over another senario
as per your example, how is mountain uplift over millions of years not an answer to why we see aquatic fossils in mountains?
creationists like to point out that fossils prove the flood but can never answer why this is a better answer nor why the flood can't explain other things
i mean we try to get yecs to answer things but, we hardly get anywhere, not even moving past the mountains to the physics involved with it other than them saying "the physics were different!" even though they can't provide anything that could show it
goddit maybe answer but it just makes it a myth just like the 100 others by other religions - ie: not true

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lfen
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Message 193 of 298 (326707)
06-27-2006 1:19 AM
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06-26-2006 8:43 PM


Dung beatles need Elephant Dung!
Was it a decade ago that National Geographic did a tv show on the ecology of an elephant pooping. It's amazing. The dung beatles fly in to make and bury balls of dung for their eggs. There are other beatles come in to steal the dung balls and then predators show up to feast on the crowd of beatles. I was in awe!
So how many kinds need elephant dung to survive?
lfen

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nwr
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Message 194 of 298 (326709)
06-27-2006 1:29 AM
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06-27-2006 1:19 AM


Re: Dung beatles need Elephant Dung!
The dung beatles fly in to make and bury balls of dung for their eggs.
The problem is that there was only one pair of dung beetles on the ark. That's not enough to take care of the elephant droppings.

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Message 195 of 298 (326916)
06-27-2006 5:16 PM
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06-27-2006 1:29 AM


Re: Dung beatles need Elephant Dung!
Not to mention the insectavores that feed on the beetles and other insects. I mean what did they feed the anteaters and all?
lfen

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