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Author Topic:   Opinions and conclusions about Religion and God.
CK
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Message 91 of 280 (321501)
06-14-2006 3:54 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by iano
06-14-2006 3:38 PM


Re: Not a Problem.
I know it's very difficult for those looking out to understand but
quote:
He even went so far as allowing himself to be crucified. Its a measure of how serious this gig is.
is entirely the last line of persuasion you want to use on disbelievers in order to convince them of the "rightness" of the christian religion.
It's one of the aspects of the christian religion that only seems to make sense when you are a christian and are immersed in the culture. I don't want to get into a long side road about it but honesly I've never seen a christian explain in any way that does not have the unconvinced or even the "wanting to be convinced" saying "huh makes no sense". As a recruitment tactic it always seems to have entirely the opposite effect than intended.
(Not wanting to get into a long debate about that particular theology point but I'm always mystified why that one is trotted in the context of trying to explain the relevence of the christian religion. I understand it's importance within the religion but not as it's deployed here within the context of this conversation).

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CK
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Message 94 of 280 (321508)
06-14-2006 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by iano
06-14-2006 4:10 PM


Re: Not a Problem.
It was just meant as a general comment and not a dig at you in particular or the version of christianity that you proscribe to. However if you want to see some other motivation, I guess that's your business.

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CK
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Message 203 of 280 (326409)
06-26-2006 10:41 AM
Reply to: Message 202 by iano
06-26-2006 10:30 AM


Re: Here come da judge!
quote:
I have explained that all three (not that there aren't other) attributes are to be reckoned with - equally.
I never get that impression from your posts - you always seem more keen on either the vague or explict threats that seem to go hand in hand with your type of belief. Phat does seem to fall on the opposite side of the fence in the way you have described.
Having said that I don't think I've ever seen anyone manage to combine the "fluffy" jesus and your stance on the matter here in any coherent manner. Most of the (christian) posters seem to rely pretty much on one or the other.

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CK
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Message 207 of 280 (326419)
06-26-2006 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 205 by iano
06-26-2006 11:08 AM


Re: Here come da judge!
Iano writes:
For it raises the hackles in a person - in the sense that most consider themselves worthy of heaven ("if it turns out that it exists afterall").
But how does that tactic work with those who don't believe in Heaven to start with? The "if it exists" isn't really a consideration for someone like me. I guess it's one that's more effective with people who are questioning or considering the christian religion.

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CK
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Message 210 of 280 (326429)
06-26-2006 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 209 by iano
06-26-2006 11:24 AM


Re: Here come da judge!
quote:
ps: it worked on me. I was one of the irreligious
Thing is - it's never worked here - not once. In fact you could make a better case for the christians (not all but some) here actually turning more people away from the religion that the reverse.

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CK
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Message 242 of 280 (326737)
06-27-2006 7:23 AM
Reply to: Message 241 by ikabod
06-27-2006 7:19 AM


Re: Interesting topic
You've hit upon the reason Intelligent design is such an oxymoron - if the Christian God Concept was the creater - he's done a pisspoor job of it.

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