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Author Topic:   The Flood - Animals and their minimum food requirement
deerbreh
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Message 23 of 239 (326875)
06-27-2006 3:31 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Faith
06-27-2006 1:24 PM


Re: a way little or no food was required
They would only have needed food and upkeep (Gen. 6:19-21) for the small number of species which under no circumstances slip into hibernation or estivation.
Kind of a big logical leap there is it not? From "some animals have the ability to hibernate or aestivate in response to no food" to "the small number of species which under no circumstances.....".
Where is the documentation that it is a small number? Many birds migrate instead of hibernating. There is little evidence of hibernation/aestivation in the tropics, food or no food. So far there is one documented case, a lemur in Madascar.
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I think hibernation is not a viable solution to the question of food supply/waste removal on the Ark until someone comes up with some evidence most animals can in fact hibernate. You would think it would have been mentioned in Genesis also. Kind of an important fact to leave out if you wanted your story to be believed. All that detail on the Ark construction and not one peep about hibernation to conserve food.

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deerbreh
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Message 35 of 239 (326902)
06-27-2006 4:28 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by CK
06-27-2006 4:04 PM


Re: Why is Faith allowed to drag every fucking topic off course?
Sorry CK. I guess it was my fault because I referenced the detail on Ark construction and compared it to the lack of mention of hibernating animals as Faith was speculating. As usual Faith ignored the context and turned the reference into evidence for her position. Here is the sequence. You be the judge.
Herb writes:
All that detail on the Ark construction and not one peep about hibernation to conserve food.
Faith writes:
All that detail about the construction ought to be enough evidence of the truth of the story.
CK writes:
What does the construction of the Ark have to do with the op? How the material was actually stored is NOT the purpose of this topic.

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deerbreh
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Message 37 of 239 (326905)
06-27-2006 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Wepwawet
06-27-2006 4:36 PM


Re: Can we get a number?
You can only get about 12 pounds of hay in a cubic foot of space unless you use a modern bulk compression method which may give you as much as 20 pounds per cubic foot
I don't think Noah had a conventional baler let alone a bulk baler. Who knows. though. It doesn't say he didn't so that is good enough for some.

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deerbreh
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Message 93 of 239 (327095)
06-28-2006 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 84 by Faith
06-28-2006 12:43 AM


Re: Water Water everywhere, yet not a drop to drink!
What you have described (no food for the animals after the flood)is what would have been the situation in any case, hibernation or no hibernation.
Exactly. The situation would have been dire without stored food on the ark. So instead of a year's supply we are talking conservatively of a need for an 18 month to 24 month supply. It makes it even tougher for the apologists. Well, at least the animals are pooping outside now that the Flood is over. Maybe they composted the stored poop - maybe the ark became one giant compost bin and they used the compost to help get the food plants going again. But wait, the ark is on top of the mountain where it is cold - that is why they didn't need freezers to store the meat, right? - so they would have had to haul the compost down the mountain to a warmer climate. Drat, all of these "inconvenient truths" make it hard to be a Flood apologist.

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deerbreh
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Message 126 of 239 (328159)
07-01-2006 10:05 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by Faith
07-01-2006 7:03 PM


Re: Just a little question
But I do think there are some scientific points that can be made myself,....
But it should give you pause that everyone on this board who has had extensive scientific training disagrees that you have managed to make any scientific points in defense of the YEC position.
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