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Message 95 of 302 (321052)
06-13-2006 7:42 AM
Reply to: Message 94 by DaveScot
06-12-2006 11:16 PM


Re: DaveScot's showcase posting permissions have been terminated
DaveScot writes:
I tried to duplicate it in the showcase thread and discovered I no longer had permission and it won't duplicate in this thread. Is there possibly a different execution path for people with permission granted in the showcase thread, when replying to that thread, that bypasses the check for active/inactive status?
Darn good guess, that's exactly what is going on, though by a somewhat circuitous route. Thank you!
I need development help, by the way, if you're familiar with web programming or interested in learning.
On the Davison issue - John asked repeatedly why I removed his papers from the Uncommon Descent sidebar after I'd put them there and why I didn't put them back. I gave him an honest answer. What was I supposed to do - ignore his question or lie about it instead? They say no good deed goes unpunished. They are evidently correct.
Never paid any attention to that side of the discussion. The parts that got my attention were related to the Forum Guidelines, mostly rule 10. For example, I didn't feel comfortable with portions like, "You're a liability to anyone who associates themselves with you because of your stinking rotten personality." We try to keep discussion focused on the topic and not the people.
Edited by Admin, : Remove redundant sign-off.

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Message 98 of 302 (321154)
06-13-2006 2:46 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by lfen
06-13-2006 2:36 PM


Re: Request permission for Davison thread
Access to [forum=-37] forum granted for purposes of participation in the A Prescribed Evolutionary Hypothesis thread.

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Message 99 of 302 (321250)
06-13-2006 8:23 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by DaveScot
06-12-2006 11:16 PM


Re: DaveScot's showcase posting permissions have been terminated
Denial of posting acess to restricted forums for inactive/suspended members is now fixed, thank for putting me on the trail.

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Message 106 of 302 (321359)
06-14-2006 7:10 AM
Reply to: Message 105 by Alan Fox
06-14-2006 6:06 AM


Re: JAD's PEH thread
Hi Alan,
I've provided you access to the [forum=-37] forum for purposes of participating in the A Prescribed Evolutionary Hypothesis thread, but as you're a new member let me make clear the ground rules. It's good for everyone if they're repeated once in a while.
The ground rules appear in Message 4 of this thread. The most important point is that members are expected to follow the Forum Guidelines no matter what the behavior of the showcased members. There will be no moderation in this forum, except perhaps to keep things on topic, and so moderation will take place by who is permitted access. Access can be rescinded at any time without explanation.

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Message 108 of 302 (321366)
06-14-2006 7:57 AM
Reply to: Message 101 by DaveScot
06-14-2006 12:13 AM


Re: DaveScot's showcase posting permissions have been terminated
DaveScot writes:
Email me with a quick description of your programming environment and I'll see if it's up my alley or if not whether it looks interesting enough to spend some time learning.
The board software is written in Perl (superficially much like c, or like awk on steroids), the database is MySQL. The HTML pages generated by Perl also make use of Javascript.
There are several interesting programming opportunities. The simplest is also one I've wanted to do for a while, make available a page where members can purchase EvC periphernalia (by using a service like CafePress), but this isn't really much of a programming task, though it would provide an avenue for gaining familiarity with the site's internals.
We also want to move the static site pages into the board. This is a rather interesting programming assignment. At many sites that have bulletin boards there is a distinctly different look and feel to the bulletin board as contrasted to the rest of the site. But the non-bulletin board pages could be recorded in the database and displayed by the software with header/footers just like all the other bulletin board pages, and with appropriate navigation bars and so forth. Adding a new static page (once you've created the page content, which could be PHP instead of HTML) and getting it added to the navigation bar and site map and so forth would be as easy as going to the board's control panel and adding it to the database. This is straightforward conceptually but challenging in terms of design and implementation.
Another area that needs work is the reference library, which was tossed together a few years ago and hasn't changed since because it is so damned difficult to add new items. This just has to be totally rethought from scratch. Members should be able to easily add reference items to the library and edit them later. While Google does a great job in general, it often casts its web too broadly, and so our goal is to provide a place where you can easily find links and information related to the debate, but more importantly, to add yet another board feature that makes it easy for sites to add their own reference libraries on any topic. Think of it as a concept that began with the idea, "Gee, it would be nice if members could add to a list of links," and then just branched off from there and went crazy.
For a while I wanted to add a wiki, but before I could act EvoWiki and CreaWiki were created. These are both based upon MediaWiki, which has somewhat restrictive server and database requirements, and I couldn't find any other really good wiki's out there, but anyway, this isn't something I plan to tackle now, though the door should always be left ajar.
Those are the largest single items. Beyond them are just a huge number of enhancements that we want to make, from things as trivial as allowing variable shading backgrounds to columns and rows to things as complex as dynamic Javascript menus configurable through the board's control panel.

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Message 112 of 302 (322039)
06-15-2006 7:55 PM
Reply to: Message 111 by kuresu
06-15-2006 7:01 PM


Re: Belated privileges granted to kuresu to debate Herepton
Actually, I removed your privileges there. Keep in mind that the ground rules (see Message 4) say permissions there can be rescinded at any time without warning, and decisions will not be explained.
It's fine that Moose restored your permissions, but could you please give rule 10 of the Forum Guidelines a quick read? The Forum Guidelines apply in the Showcase forum, too. Thanks!

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Message 118 of 302 (322889)
06-18-2006 12:06 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by Alan Fox
06-18-2006 10:44 AM


Re: JAD's PEH thread
Sure, consider your post the notice.
Thanks for giving it a try. Showcase is a unique attempt to allow those like John to control the presentation of their ideas. Naturally they bring the same eclectic approach to this as they do to much else.

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Message 119 of 302 (322890)
06-18-2006 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 117 by kuresu
06-18-2006 11:37 AM


kuresu writes:
Can I have permission to post in Syamsu's creationist thread?
Granted.

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Message 125 of 302 (322970)
06-18-2006 5:59 PM
Reply to: Message 117 by kuresu
06-18-2006 11:37 AM


I see Syamsu's message - thanks for trying!

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Message 127 of 302 (323013)
06-18-2006 7:44 PM
Reply to: Message 126 by Syamsu
06-18-2006 6:52 PM


The only thing we need to know in this thread is if you would like Kuresu to stop participating in your thread. If that's your request and he doesn't stop, then I'll remove his Showcase privileges.

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Message 134 of 302 (323547)
06-19-2006 8:17 PM


A Question from the Moderators
Is there any part of "This is not a debate thread" that is difficult to understand?

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Message 141 of 302 (323866)
06-20-2006 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by EZscience
06-19-2006 10:02 PM


Re: Shwocase the scientists - not the dogmatists
EZscience writes:
You are allowing them to admit and dismiss their opponents at will and chant their little meaningless mantras with impunity, without holding them responsible to answer any logical challenges.
Those showcased have proven immune to moderation and incapable of rational discussion. Despite this, many people would like to debate them, and Showcase makes this possible.
The purpose of Showcase is definitely not to provide a venue where constructive discussion with the residents can take place. Those showcased are there because of their demonstrated inability to do so.
If you want to have a decent Showcase forum, lets orient it around one or more of the real scientists.
If you mean one of the scientists already here, they already have full privileges. They can participate wherever they like, and they can propose threads that showcase their views in any of the forums.
If you mean name scientists, we can certainly create a new forum and host any that are willing to participate here.

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Message 143 of 302 (326937)
06-27-2006 8:00 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by Sandor Szabados
06-27-2006 7:48 PM


Re: Request for participation
I'm going to provide you access to the [forum=-37] forum in order to participate in the Creationist theory thread, but since you haven't actually participated at EvC Forum as of yet, let me refer you to Message 4. Please give this a read before posting. Also, members given access to Showcase are expected to follow the Forum Guidelines, whether those showcased do or not.
If you go to your profile page you can create a new user name (we call them aliases).

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Message 146 of 302 (329222)
07-06-2006 4:59 AM
Reply to: Message 145 by pink sasquatch
07-05-2006 6:29 PM


Re: PEH Showcase access
Access granted.

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Message 158 of 302 (332156)
07-16-2006 7:53 AM
Reply to: Message 154 by Cold Foreign Object
07-15-2006 11:26 PM


Re: For RGB
Herepton writes:
Why don't you apply for Showcase again ?
I'm interpreting this as a request that rgb be granted Showcase access, so access is hereby granted.

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