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Author Topic:   A Prescribed Evolutionary Hypothesis
John A. Davison 
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Message 245 of 300 (327687)
06-30-2006 6:32 AM
Reply to: Message 244 by John A. Davison
06-30-2006 12:27 AM


Re: Recruiting Debaters
If the green disappears on this thread I might as well disappear with it as I am obviously wasting my time here.

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."

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John A. Davison 
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Message 246 of 300 (327975)
07-01-2006 11:23 AM
Reply to: Message 242 by Admin
06-28-2006 7:48 AM


Re: Recruiting Debaters
Do I understand that I will continue to be banned from all future participation at EvC forums?

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."

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John A. Davison 
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Message 248 of 300 (328046)
07-01-2006 4:21 PM
Reply to: Message 247 by nwr
07-01-2006 12:40 PM


Re: How can we use PEH to make empirical predictions?
I do not see how you could possibly make such a statement.
I have already made several predictions and drawn firm conclusions. I just enumerated them in no uncertain terms. There is nothing in the PEH that can ever be reconciled with Darwinism. NeoDarwinism in all its trappings never had anything to do with organic evolution beyond the elaboration of varieties and in some few instances sub-species. Furthermore there is no reason whatsoever to believe that progressive evolution is even any longer in progress. If you cannot see that there is nothing I can do for you. Sorry.
"It is undesirable to believe a proposition when there is no ground whatsoever for believing it to be true."
Bertrand Russell
I am still waitimg for a ruling from EvC as to my future status here. Am I to be readmitted with full membership or not? That has a great deal to do with whether or not I am willing to continue here as so far nothing of substance has been presented concerning my thesis. I grow weary of being treated as a second class citizen on internet forums. It has gone on long enough. I am banned at ARN, Uncommon Descent, Panda's Thumb, Pharyngula and, except for this "showcase" exception, here as well. I still don't know why I was invited to post here.

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."

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John A. Davison 
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Message 250 of 300 (328058)
07-01-2006 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 249 by randman
07-01-2006 4:41 PM


Re: How can we use PEH to make empirical predictions?
Thank you randman.
The fossil record is the final arbiter of any mechanism for evolution. There is absolutely nothing in it to suggest the gradual generation of any of the taxa and very litte that even indicates reproductive continuity. Nevertheless, I refuse to accept the notion of de novo creation and I don't feel it is necessary. Organic evolution can be understood without resorting to any form of intervention and the PEH presents a means by which that can have been achieved. The Darwinian model, resorting as it does to chance, cannot be sustained by either the fossil record or the experimental laboratory. It is completely without merit and always has been.
"We might as well stop looking for the missing links. They never existed."
after Otto Schindewolf
"The frst bird hatched from a reptilian egg."
ibid

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."

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John A. Davison 
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Message 252 of 300 (328157)
07-01-2006 10:01 PM
Reply to: Message 246 by John A. Davison
07-01-2006 11:23 AM


Re: Recruiting Debaters
I repeat my request of message 245.

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."

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John A. Davison 
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Message 253 of 300 (328158)
07-01-2006 10:03 PM
Reply to: Message 246 by John A. Davison
07-01-2006 11:23 AM


Re: Recruiting Debaters
Woops, that should be message 246.

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."

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John A. Davison 
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Message 254 of 300 (328208)
07-02-2006 6:45 AM
Reply to: Message 253 by John A. Davison
07-01-2006 10:03 PM


Re: Recruiting Debaters
I just discovered that I am not allowed to even see what is transpiring elsewhere on EvC forums. When did that go into effect and why?
I can't believe this place. I am invited to particpate but only here. This is reminiscent of Boot Camp. You have now joined with ARN by not only banning me but denying me access to your secret discussions. God only knows what is going on there. I can only imagine.
I will not post another comment until I am formally informed of my status here with some sort of explanation.
I am sure there are some who can understand my position. If there are I would like to hear from them either at my blog or by email.

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."

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John A. Davison 
Inactive Member


Message 256 of 300 (328243)
07-02-2006 10:22 AM
Reply to: Message 255 by AdminAsgara
07-02-2006 9:06 AM


Re: Recruiting Debaters
I didn't address my post to the Queen of the Universe whoever that really is.
Whoever you are you are mistaken. When I try to call up Intelligent Design or Biological Evolution I am immediately greeted with "You do not have permission to access this forum." I recommend that you at EvC get together with one another and find out who is in charge because someone is making it quite impossible for me to access anything at EvC except this one thread. Much more important is why? I already know the answer to that one.
If no one chooses to engage me that is fine also as it reveals the total bankruptcy of the Darwinian chance-happy, mutation-intoxicated atheist ideology that pervades this forum from top to bottom as it always has. The fact remains that I can view nothing at EvC except "showcase." Got that? Don't try to tell me otherwise as it won't wash. Someone is lying in their teeth.
Now you either restore me with full posting and viewing capacities anywhere I choose at EvC or I am out of here with an announcement to the world of cyberdom about this forum and its shabbly degenerate tactics.
You have until 12 noon EST. After that if my conditions are not met all further communication with me will be via email or at my blog.
As for "showcase" -
VENI, VIDI, VICI.
Julius Caesar

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."

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John A. Davison 
Inactive Member


Message 258 of 300 (328245)
07-02-2006 10:34 AM
Reply to: Message 257 by AdminAsgara
07-02-2006 10:32 AM


Re: Recruiting Debaters
Sorry but the choice is yours not mine. You have 90 minutes.

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."

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John A. Davison 
Inactive Member


Message 262 of 300 (328284)
07-02-2006 2:25 PM
Reply to: Message 259 by Adminnemooseus
07-02-2006 11:14 AM


Re: JAD's read only access to forums, or lack there of
I am denied participation everywhere at EvC except "showcase." That is transparently discriminatory and totally unacceptable to me. The problem will be "fixed" as you put it when I am treated fairly, without bias or prejudice and not a moment before. Those are my non-negotiable terms. If they cannot be met it will reflect on EvC and certainly not on me. I have had enough of forums that first isolate me, then treat me with contempt and finally ban me. EvC, like Panda's Thumb has done all three in the past and in exactly same order. EvC had "Boot Camnp", Panda's Thumb had "The Bathroom Wall." The only difference is that EvC decided for some strange reason to invite me back to what you call "showcase" which I take to be just another version of "Boot Camp." Apparently you enjoy trying to humiliate your adversaries a lot. You are only humiliating yourself with such tactics just as Ellsbery has at Panda's Thumb, P.Z. Meyers has at Pharyngula and Dembski has at Uncommon Descent.
The choice remains yours and yours alone. It always was. You are simply repeating your past.
"The one thing we learn from history is that we do not learn from history."
I have learned a great deal about the machinations of internet forums and I have a very good memory. I also have had enough of the methods such forums practice with those with whom they have ideological differences. Your forum will be no exception unless you mend your ways.
In view of your confession I will extend my deadline until 6 PM EST. Do what you have to do. I always do.

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."

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John A. Davison 
Inactive Member


Message 263 of 300 (328727)
07-04-2006 11:17 AM
Reply to: Message 261 by Admin
07-02-2006 11:45 AM


Re: Recruiting Debaters
Since you have not yet banned me (as you most certainly eventually will) and since I have nothing further to offer you or you to offer me, I will take this golden opportunity to let others speak for me.
"Science commits suicide when she adopts a creed."
Thomas Henry Huxley
"Of the few innocent pleasures left to men past middle life - the jammimg common-sense down the throats of fools is perhaps the keenest."
ibid
"The laws of the organic world are the same, WHETHER WE ARE DEALING WITH WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN INDIVIDUAL (ontogeny) OR THAT OF A PALEONTOLOGICAL SERIES (phylogeny). Neither in the one nor in the other is there room for chance."
Leo Berg, Nomogenesis, page 134, his emphasis.
There is plenty more if you want more so I recommend you ban me once again if you intend to silence me. That is the only means you now have left. Do what you have to do. I always have.

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."

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John A. Davison 
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Message 264 of 300 (328728)
07-04-2006 11:20 AM
Reply to: Message 263 by John A. Davison
07-04-2006 11:17 AM


Re: Recruiting Debaters
Excuse my duplication of WITH.

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."

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John A. Davison 
Inactive Member


Message 265 of 300 (328749)
07-04-2006 12:59 PM
Reply to: Message 260 by nwr
07-02-2006 11:44 AM


Re: Recruiting Debaters
In case you didn't know it, I have no respect for anonymous posters. They don't exist.

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."

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John A. Davison 
Inactive Member


Message 267 of 300 (328761)
07-04-2006 1:32 PM
Reply to: Message 266 by nwr
07-04-2006 1:13 PM


Re: Recruiting Debaters
ad hominem? That is quite impossible when a coward such as yourself refuses to disclose his identity. Besides I am through interacting with you people. I am just taking advantage of the fact that you haven't banned me yet. You will. That is your only choice now as in the past. Ideologues have no other option.
In the meantime consider this from one my distinguished sources.
"Any system that purports to account for evolution must invoke a mechanism not mutational and aleatory."
Pierre Grasse, Evolution of Living Organisms, page 234. The entire sentence is in italics.
That is precisely what the PEH does.

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."

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John A. Davison 
Inactive Member


Message 270 of 300 (328833)
07-04-2006 6:14 PM
Reply to: Message 269 by randman
07-04-2006 5:14 PM


Re: basing theory on facts
What part of "I am no longer responding here" do you not understand?
I am through with EvC and all those who post here. I am waiting for it to do the only think it ever was able to do which is to stifle the opposition with bannishment. It is what I have learned to expect from forums like Panda's Thumb, Phrayngula, Ucommon Descent and of course EvC.
Until it does and I am sure it will, here is another one for you all to digest. I would be a fool not to get in these licks before the inevitable transpires.
"Microevolution does not lead beyond the confines of the species and the typical products of microevolution, the geographic races, are not incipient species. There is no such category as incipient species. Species and the higher categories originate in single macroevolutionary steps as completely new genetic systems. The genetical process which is involved consists of a repatterning of the chromosomes, which results in a new genetic system. The theory of the genes and of the accumulation of micromutants by selection has to be ruled out of this picture.
Richard B. Goldschmidt, The Material Basis of Evolution, page 396
ergo: The Prescribed Evolutionary Hypothesis. The only qualification I would add is that he should have used the past tense as my signature makes very plain.
Have you had enough yet or do you want some more? I really don't care one way or the other. It is entirely up to EvC.

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."

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