I think I kind of understand the original concept of the Showcase forum as a effort to lure creationists to expound upon their opinions, seeing as they are so sorely bullied and battered in the science forums, but this whole concept seems flawed. You are allowing them to admit and dismiss their opponents at will and chant their little meaningless mantras with impunity, without holding them responsible to answer any logical challenges. Its crap. If you want to have a decent Showcase forum, lets orient it around one or more of the real scientists. They are the ones deserving of such priviliges - not the dogmatic myth-believers who won't address intelligent challenges to their blind belief structure.
hear hear, I second that motion. Not that I've any power on this board, it is, after all, not a democracy in the true sense (but, I do get to vote in the next elections--yay!)All a man's knowledge comes from his experiences
especially when they claim that there "theories" are not to be held to the same rules as our theories. That's a major problem. It's not that I can't take the heat, but when they handwaive and evade, and then accuse us of doing it . . . ergh. Of course, this might need a new topic, seeing as how it's supposed to be solely for requests to debate, and we've already gotten into trouble for debating on this thread (and I'm quite guilty of this:oAll a man's knowledge comes from his experiences
You are allowing them to admit and dismiss their opponents at will and chant their little meaningless mantras with impunity, without holding them responsible to answer any logical challenges.
Those showcased have proven immune to moderation and incapable of rational discussion. Despite this, many people would like to debate them, and Showcase makes this possible.
The purpose of Showcase is definitely not to provide a venue where constructive discussion with the residents can take place. Those showcased are there because of their demonstrated inability to do so.
If you want to have a decent Showcase forum, lets orient it around one or more of the real scientists.
If you mean one of the scientists already here, they already have full privileges. They can participate wherever they like, and they can propose threads that showcase their views in any of the forums.
If you mean name scientists, we can certainly create a new forum and host any that are willing to participate here.
I request permission to participate in the Creationist Theory topic. I have an M.A. in History of Science, a website on the convergence of science and religion (www.scientific-religious.com)and can make a unique contribution to the discussion. I have been shadowing Showcase as Sandor606 and have posted on ISCID.
I would like to participate as Sandor Szabados, not Sandor606. How can I make the change?
I'm going to provide you access to the Showcase forum in order to participate in the Creationist theory thread, but since you haven't actually participated at EvC Forum as of yet, let me refer you to Message 4. Please give this a read before posting. Also, members given access to Showcase are expected to follow the Forum Guidelines, whether those showcased do or not.
If you go to your profile page you can create a new user name (we call them aliases).
Though the PEH thread is quickly approaching its message limit, I wouldn't mind having access to ask JAD some questions, (hopefully with constructive results). If you want to wait to see if a PEH pt.2 thread is spawned, I understand.
I'm still reading it. It's high-frikkin'-larious."We had survived to turn on the History Channel And ask our esteemed panel, Why are we alive? And here's how they replied: You're what happens when two substances collide And by all accounts you really should have died." -Andrew Bird