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Author Topic:   Kurt Wise - A YAC and an old earth evolutionist?
ketrine
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Message 31 of 47 (328845)
07-04-2006 8:03 PM


Kurt Wise
I am a former student of Dr. Wise.
He is a lot easier to understand if you really listen to what he says. From what I know of him, he is not an old earth evolutionist, but a man of faith. He believes God created the world in 6 literal days, but he isnt going to lie and say that the evidence of the earth supports this view, at least not unless you start with different assumptions.
I dont know much about the nitty gritty arguments that you are tossing back and forth, but I do know enough about Kurt Wise to know that he is honest, he is a young earth creationist, and he is a heck of a good scientist. I wish I had my class notes in a form that I could upload and link to you all so you could read for yourself.

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ketrine
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Message 33 of 47 (329003)
07-05-2006 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by crashfrog
07-04-2006 9:01 PM


Re: Kurt Wise
no, and no.
why would you think that?

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ketrine
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Message 35 of 47 (329138)
07-05-2006 11:14 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by crashfrog
07-05-2006 3:29 PM


Re: Kurt Wise
dear crashfrog,
I dont lack the capacity to judge the evidence. I am not stupid, I just have not spent enough time on the material yet. I may yet do it someday, I am still fairly young.
That said, I also dont want to blindly subscribe to the consensus. Just because something is popular doesnt mean it is right. And as you suggest, just because a man is righteous it does not follow that he is right.
But I think you may have misunderstood my message. I noticed that a few people had called Professor Wise "insane" or made derogatory remarks about him because they didnt agree with him. I couldnt sit by and let that happen when I know otherwise.
Do you understand now? I have met the man, listened to his theories, sat in his classroom, and seen the work he has done, and I believe him to be not only quite sane, but much more true to the evidence than many other creationists. It's unfair of people who dont know anything about him (or his work) to make broad overarching statements saying that he's stupid.
I really had to reply to these posts because from what I know, Dr. Wise is brilliant. He is easily one of the most intelligent people I sat under during my college career, and he is a proficient scientist, however unconventional. I am not making an assertion as to whether or not he is correct about overarching theories, but I can guarantee from firsthand experience that his science is DONE correctly.
Now, if someone wanted to complain about his singing I might agree...

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ketrine
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Message 37 of 47 (329159)
07-06-2006 12:53 AM
Reply to: Message 36 by crashfrog
07-05-2006 11:35 PM


Re: Kurt Wise
hmm... I can tell now all you're interested in is disagreeing. This is exactly why I dont like to join forums like these. Nobody wants to listen, everybody wants to mudsling and have the last say.
I cant sing like Luciano Pavarotti, but I can sure tell he does it right.

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ketrine
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Message 39 of 47 (329388)
07-06-2006 1:27 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by NosyNed
07-06-2006 1:57 AM


Re: Telling ....
I disagree.
The knowledge I have of singing comes from having done a little bit of it, as well as having ears to hear.
I have also done a little bit of science. I can tell to some degree whether or not science is done correctly. If I didnt have a sense to understand science, then I couldnt even do a little of it.
Not many people know how to do rocket science, but they can tell the NASA liftoff on the 4th was a success.
I dont understand why you dont just believe me. It seems like all you want to do is fight. I dont want to debate with you, just convince you. Dont you want to agree? You and crashfrog seem like you should join a debate team. Maybe I dont belong on these forums if I just want to have a real conversation.

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