Has EvC changed your beliefs?

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Except for this minority which includes you. How nice for you.

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Everyone is unwilling to do this to some degree, of course.Not everyone has a professional scientist as a spouse and a whole lot of friends who are professional scientists who have beaten most of those tendencies out of me.So no, it's not nice being me.

This isn't the kind of belief that you meant Larni but it is what has changed:I once had the idea that you could talk to individuals about the mistaken information they had about the world and how it works. I believed that they would want to learn more and understand better. I expected this would change the mind of some of them one person at a time.I see this is, in general, not true at all.Now I understand that the battle must be carried to those purveyors of lies at places like AIG and ICR. If any progress is to be made the battle to preserve the light against those who wish to restore the dark ages must be done at a higher level than individuals who've been brought up on lies.Why do I still bother to post here at all? Because beliefs are very hard to give up and I still think that an occasional individual is capable of learning.

You have all the evidence you want for Gods existance all around you. As plain as the nose on your face. But you chose to believe it is accident or "I don't know". You chose to look at the Sony-conquering minaturisation of robotics and programming that is a spider spinning a web, stare in fascination...and say..."accident - it all happened by accident" All the while having plenty of experience with that which one can expect from accident.An enemy who sticks his head in the sand is still an enemy. God says so.

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18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities”his eternal power and divine nature”have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

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Man hasn't looked into the eternal skys and the vast seas (copyright RR) and wondered about who he is for nothing. Don't let pie-in-the-sky tentitive fool you into thinking the problem has gone away.That's just mist. Smoke and mirrors Edited by iano, : No reason given.

How miserable you are!

Come on children, Grow up and stick to the topic.Edited by AdminJar, : No reason given.

Come on children, Grow up and stick to the topic.Edited by AdminJar, : No reason given.

Come on children, Grow up and stick to the topic.Edited by CK, : No reason given.Edited by AdminJar, : No reason given.

LOL. James 4:4 "You adulters and adultresses, know you not that the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore will be friend of the world is the enemy of God."

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

Off topic so deleted.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

My apologies AdminJar. I didn't see your topic notices until I had posted as I hadn't read that far. I didn't want that one to pass without a short response.

I concur.It is a battle.I wish I could aid the battle.I wish I knew the best way to do it.I would thnk education is the key.I feel quite low now....

Dude, my respect for you knows no bounds, but that comment sums up your version of xianty.Smoke and mirrors.

Sorry for the off topic statements......Feeling low.

What does this mean?

Just a couple of thoughts on your thread Nosy. Firstly I might suggest that your post does kinda sound as if if you are assuming that it is you that has all the truth and it is your duty to educate those who don't agree with your positions. It seems to me that this should be a place where everyone can debate and learn because IMHO none of us has lock on all of the truth.I'm not YEC and although I do believe that there is an intelligent designer I do not see ID as being scientific. (Neither do I see Atheism as being scientific.) However I am convinced that the scientific argument can easily stand up to a debate against YEC so I'm not sure why so many on this forum get so wound up by it.The other point I'd make is, that my experience with YEC's is by and large positive. The ones I have met are bringing up their kids in a loving environment, and basically just get on with their life like the vast majority of people. As much as I find science and the minimal knowledge I have of it fascinating, I don't think it really impacts one's life if they wish to believe that the Earth is 6000 years old.For what it's worth I find this forum very educational from both a scientific and theological point of view. As far as my own posts are concerned I just try to make my point but I don't really anticipate that I'll be changing anyone's positions. I am very grateful that there are those on this forum who are well informed both scientifically and theologically and for the time they invest in their posts.

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Everybody is entitled to my opinion.