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Phat
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Message 6 of 128 (332514)
07-17-2006 10:57 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by nator
07-17-2006 7:23 AM


I browsed the link a bit. The groups mission statement while quite fundamentalist is not extreme enough to be labeled cultic. They acknowledge in #7 that they are not necessarily in agreement with other Christians. I think that eagerness for the Lords return is a plausible mainline Protestant belief, although realistically immature.
I mean, even IF Christians take the Rapture belief seriously, we can hardly expect to be watching and cheering an N.F.L. football game or a NASCAR race or worse yet a tragic conflict in one of the global hotspots one minute and then,
*poof*
expect to be Raptured harmlessly to Heaven and be in any sort of mental orspiritualstate to began singing 24/7 praises to the blessed Creator of life the very next instant! I would not go so far as to label apocolyptic beliefs as cultic, but I would also expect that God would leave many of "us" behind to take care of the mess we have made on behalf of anyone left!
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Phat
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Message 9 of 128 (332530)
07-17-2006 11:41 AM
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07-17-2006 11:36 AM


Re: Christian Fear Mongering
Jazzns writes:
The problem I see is that many Christians today are focusing all of their doctrine around the end times and the book of Revelations. I cannot imagine the impact it would have if I told most of my Christian friends and family that I don't think Revelations belongs in canon.
Well, Jesus Himself said these words:
NIV writes:
Matt 6:34-- Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
How can people worry about getting to Heaven when we have not even graduated from
Love Thy Neighbor: 101?
I agree with you that Left Behind is a rather immature view.
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Phat
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Message 11 of 128 (332536)
07-17-2006 11:52 AM
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07-17-2006 11:44 AM


Persecution Complex
Crashfrog writes:
Personally I think it's an argument - a humerous one, of course - against allowing Christians into any sort of position of power, authority, or control. If they're apt to disappear at any moment, it endangers the rest of us to allow them to be pilots, allow them to drive, allow them to be in charge of anything.
Of course, that would only play into the hands of a persecution complex and vast worldwide conspiracy!
The solution against Rapturemania, IMHO, is education---specifically like the discussion we are now having, among other things.

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Phat
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Message 13 of 128 (332542)
07-17-2006 12:59 PM
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07-17-2006 12:50 PM


Re: Persecution Complex
Crashfrog writes:
Yeah, but how would they argue against it?
You have a point. One cannot argue against ones own logic (or illogic!)

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