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Author Topic:   Atheism, a dangerous idea?
LinearAq
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Message 222 of 241 (332694)
07-17-2006 9:11 PM
Reply to: Message 215 by riVeRraT
07-17-2006 3:14 PM


One thing at a time.
LinearAq writes:
the morals of athiests cannot be discussed because they are not written down?
riVeRrat writes:
They can be discussed, but they cannot be debated, because they are not written down, they are not absolute.
You have said before that Christian morals can be debated....I assume you are saying that it is because they ARE written down and ARE absolute.
Please provide an example of an absolute morality stated in the Bible and your reasoning for catagorizing it as absolute.

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LinearAq
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Message 227 of 241 (332850)
07-18-2006 10:40 AM
Reply to: Message 224 by riVeRraT
07-18-2006 6:15 AM


Christian morality discussion as related to OP
riVeRrat writes:
This is not a thread about Christian morality, it is about whether atheism is a dangerous idea or not.
If I provide an example, we will no doubt debate it, hence proving my point.
Please provide an example of absolute morality of an atheist.
Let me explain what I am driving at.
There is much discussion among fundamentalist Christians about the lack of an absolute moral guidance without God. You even seem to hint at this being a problem in your comments about the athiest moral foundation. Most of the fundamentalist with whom I am aquainted, are quite vocal about the problems with the United States that are caused by this relativistic world view. Subjective morals are considered the cause of the current breakdown of society. If any of them answered the OP, this subjective set of morals would be the danger that they believe athiest thinking presents to society.
Despite the fact that you deny saying subjective morals are a danger, your comments indicate that you have a problem with them.
So, my question concerning the degree to which Biblical morals are absolute has a direct bearing on whether subjective morals can be presented as a danger. That is why I wanted to know what Biblical moral laws you considered absolute and your reasoning for catagorizing them as absolute.
Perhaps you are not the best fundamentalist to address this question since you have not really made any statements concerning your commitment to any particular stand on these issues.

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LinearAq
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Message 238 of 241 (333646)
07-20-2006 8:24 AM
Reply to: Message 237 by riVeRraT
07-20-2006 8:12 AM


Re: Implication of superiority
First, I apologize for the fundamentalist label I used earlier. I knew you were not a fundamentalist but had a cognitive disconnect there.
Then everyone started jumping up and down about why we should be scared of Christianity, when that is not the topic of the thread.
I missed the part where anyone said we should be scared of Christianity. My reason for pointing out the subjectiveness of the Christian morals was to refute the statement that the subjective morals of athiests made their ideals dangerous.

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