The reality is that being anti-zionist is the same thing as anti-semitism.
i'm not any more anti-zionist than i am anti-any kind of government that thinks they have a mandate from god to do whatever they like. be they jews of crazy fundie bush. i dislike the very idea that someone's geneology, however minute, should guarantee them something that the rest of us have to work for or can never have. i thought we left behind inherited rights a long time ago?
and if anti-zionism is anti-semitism, what about all my anti-zionist jewish friends?
I'd think that would be welcomed
for that i'd have to dislike jews. i don't i dislike the idiotic mentality that most american jews have of picking out one specific if faint ancestry to worship. half of my family is scottish. it is reasonable to think of myself as a scot. if you had one great grandmother that makes you jewish, it is not quite so reasonable to think of yourself as 'genetically jewish' as opposed to the rest of your family that is german or russian or czech or irish or native american or english or french. i have a friend who i love dearly who is all of those things. but he thinks of himself as an israeli jew even though he's never been there nor has his family. and he has pale skin and dark red hair and nordo-russian features. it's stupid. but there is this odd mixing of religion and geneology and no one really knows where race begins and religion ends though said person is clearly not racially israeli and he's a practicing pagan. he's simply not jewish at all. but. he is, because his mother's line is jewish somewhere back there.
especially in lieu of what happens to them on a daily basis.
what happens to them on a daily basis? you mean in israel or here? cause let me tell you all the horible things that happen to jews on a daily basis in soflo.
The Jews DO believe in the Messiah
the jews do not believe in anything remotely resembling your messiah. they believe in a man, a real live non-divine man, who will sit on david's throne and unite the kingdom under the law of the lord. and that's just the part of it. the jews have believed in many messiahs. and such there havebeen. they are temporary, temporal problem solvers. they fix very real anguish. now would be a perfect time for a jewish messiah. but not a christian one. they are not looking for the descent of god to men. they are not looking for the four corners to shake. they are not looking for the end of the earth.
First of all, you could just as easily turn your argument around on yourself by making the unmistakable notion that Muslims are bringing in more Muslims to kil Jews.
quite so. but that argument is made all the time. my point is that it's not one sided. the jews are just as interested in having a monopoly on the holy land as the muslims are. i'm just the one person who dares to call the jews on their desires. it's no different than the christians. it's no different than the muslims. but the christians know their claim is weaker and they think if they help the jews they can sneak in every now and then.
Secondly, show me where in the Bible that it says Christians will bring Jews to Israel so that Jesus will come back?
are you really so dense that you missed that idea? i wasn't saying that it was written in scripture that blah blah blah bullshit. i was saying that in order to aid the side of the jews politically in israel, the christians are funding "homeland moves". if they dillute the opposing vote with zionist voices, they stand a chance of bringing about the necessary changes like rebuilding the temple which is a JEWISH requirement for the messiah.
So how we can we change what was already written in the annals of time?
we can't. i didn't say it was logical or consistent, i said it was happening. these people thing that if they manouver, they can make stuff happen faster. they're stupid and mistaken, but that's not my fault.
Both verses I cited were written 700 years before Jesus was alive. Both are unmistakably Messianic, thus invalidating that Jews don't believe in a Messiah, and also invalidates that it was inserted by Christians. Its all there if you take the time to read it.
i've read it. it's not talking about jesus. second time eh? the first time being out of egypt and the second time being the babylonian exile. they're not talking about the diaspora, they're talking about the exile.
However, the Jews will try to rebuild the physical Temple.
that's all i'm saying. and the christians are dumbly trying to help them.
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