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Author Topic:   Hovind busted, finally
nator
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Message 3 of 308 (331651)
07-13-2006 10:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Coragyps
07-13-2006 10:12 PM


Such sweet, sweet schadenfreude.
It's just so beautiful.
I love life.

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nator
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Message 32 of 308 (331915)
07-15-2006 6:46 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by randman
07-15-2006 2:40 AM


Re: comments on the charges
quote:
Now, I think calling all of his employees missionaries is probably a stretch, but there is no doubt, from his religious perspective, that the theme park is a ministry, and as a ministry, why can't he count all workers as missionaries?
Do you know how the IRS defines "employee" and/or "missionary"?

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nator
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Message 43 of 308 (332036)
07-15-2006 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by randman
07-15-2006 12:30 PM


Re: comments on the charges
quote:
Why don't you explain it to us?
Because I don't know the answer.
That's why I asked.
quote:
The IRS says no direct gifts can be made to anyone, but in tax court, there is a ruling stating the opposite for missionaries. It's a bit more complex than you realize legally.
I figured.
That's why I asked.

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nator
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Message 83 of 308 (334392)
07-22-2006 8:21 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by saureanescapade
07-19-2006 7:20 AM


Re: Science has to remain objective
quote:
This is a big load off bull you are feeding into the forum
You should never open your mouth and make emmotional loaded statements that have absolutley no validation in the academic field!!!
Make sure you know what you are talking about, because unless you have a doctorate in Science pertaining to physcics, chemestry or biology, your opinions caount for scrap.
And even if Kent Hovind evaded tax, because he does not read his bible, that still does not make the stuff he teaches incorrect.
Man, you should go and get yourself an education
Might I suggest Philosophy 101? And perhaps Philosophy of evolution as well as critical thinking
And if you want to be such an aethistic, Schadenfroh, stuek drek and slander people without them being able to defend themselves, you are crossing a line with God, that he will not forgive you for if you do not seriously think about you and life, and how final death can be.
Thank you
You're welcome.

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nator
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Message 185 of 308 (360995)
11-02-2006 10:14 PM
Reply to: Message 182 by Chiroptera
11-02-2006 9:29 PM


Re: What great news.
he's a cheat who bilked people out of their social security money and also bilked the community out of their tax revenue.
Of course he should go to jail.

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nator
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Message 266 of 308 (379378)
01-23-2007 10:48 PM
Reply to: Message 229 by johnfolton
01-19-2007 7:09 PM


quote:
If your against fraud don't look at Kent look at the Federal Reserve its the biggest scam on the planet.
The way I see it, you have a couple of options.
1) You can run for office and work to abolish the IRS, or
2) Renounce your American citizenship so you don't have to pay taxes anymore.

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nator
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Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
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Message 294 of 308 (379860)
01-25-2007 4:36 PM
Reply to: Message 271 by Lysimachus
01-24-2007 9:40 PM


Re: From Freedom to Fascism
quote:
It is so sad to see so many of you hear gloat over someone else's missfortune.
"Misfortune"?
I never heard a tax evasion conviction described as a "misfortune" before, but I suppose it is a "misfortune".
Easily preventable, though.
quote:
Do you think that most of the atheists here even care whether Kent paid his taxes or not? Phhuuh. Not in the least.
I care.
I care because he hasn't paid his share to support those intrepid men and women in uniform that defend our country.
I care that he hasn't paid his employees' social security taxes, so when they try to receive those funds, they will not be there. Not only does that make me feel for those people, it also means that they will be more likely to need other kinds of public assistance that the rest of us will pay for instead of who was supposed to in the first place.
I care that he used or benefitted from good roads, the electrical grid, the airwaves, schools, the police force, the national guard and coast guard, regulatory agencies, and many other government services that taxes pay for without contributing his fair share.
quote:
Most of you hear are gloating over his missfortune because of his person. Because you were sick of his "ridiculous" creation theories. That's the root of it, and it's certainly a root of evil.
Hey, he's the prideful, deceitful, selfish one, not paying his fair share.
He's also supposed to be a good Christian, isn't he?
quote:
Very sad. Goes to show just how "compassionate" the atheists/evolutionsts truly are as they claim to be.
Just goes to show you how "honest" the Christians truly are as they claim to be.
And I never did claim to be compassionate, you know.
quote:
The term "finally" at the end of the topic of this forum really says alot. And it surely doesn't send a pretty message. "Celebrating" over his 10 year sentence? If I were standing in front of you right now, and if I had no fear in a Living God, I would slap you in the face very hard.
Tell me, do you believe that people who commit tax fraud should go to jail, or not?
Is it wrong to be satisfied when a known swindler and liar finally gets caught and punished appropriately?
quote:
I just wonder how quick you would be to defend one of your prized evolutionists if they were sent to prison for "tax evasion".
Well, scientists tend to frown on dishonesty in science, since one's work tends to be based on the work of others.
People who are discovered to have purposefully fabricated data, for example, are no longer able to get a job doing science, since the taint of association is so great.
So, I'd say that anyone, even if they are a scientist, who tries to get away with tax evasion deserves what they get.

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nator
Member (Idle past 2188 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
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Message 295 of 308 (379861)
01-25-2007 4:39 PM
Reply to: Message 273 by arachnophilia
01-24-2007 10:30 PM


Re: From Freedom to Fascism
quote:
If I were standing in front of you right now, and if I had no fear in a Living God, I would slap you in the face very hard.
and we would turn you the other cheek.
Speak for yourself!
I'd have him arrested for assault faster than you could spit.
Edited by nator, : No reason given.

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