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Author Topic:   Where is the "leftist" media in the US?
macaroniandcheese 
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Message 106 of 116 (333764)
07-20-2006 3:07 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by U can call me Cookie
07-20-2006 9:10 AM


Re: On Faith's allegations.
not black and white, white and red. white being the perfect jesus-ocracy and red being ... all those dirty commies in wolves' clothing.
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nator
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Message 107 of 116 (333819)
07-20-2006 8:17 PM


OK, here's some evidence that the media is biased to the right
This link goes to a progressive non-profit media watchdog group which compiled a study which shows that there is a bias in favor of conservative guests on the three major political discussion shows, Face the Nation, Meet the Press, and This Week.

On February 14, Media Matters for America released a comprehensive study analyzing the guest appearances on ABC's This Week, CBS' Face the Nation, and NBC's Meet the Press from 1997 through 2005. In April, Media Matters released an update to that study, analyzing the shows for the first quarter of 2006. In both reports, the results demonstrated that Republicans and conservatives dominated on all three Sunday shows. Media Matters has now completed an analysis of the second quarter of 2006, April through June, and the key conclusions reached in the first two studies remain unchanged.

Republicans and conservatives outnumber Democrats and progressives. More conservative journalists appear than progressive journalists. Panels are more likely to be imbalanced toward the right than toward the left. Republicans and conservatives are given more solo interviews. In short, the title we gave to our original study -- "If It's Sunday, It's Conservative" -- remains true.

link to article


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Message 108 of 116 (333823)
07-20-2006 8:27 PM
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07-20-2006 8:17 PM


Re: OK, here's some evidence that the media is biased to the right
Their study may be accurate for all I know, but "progressive" is a synonym for "leftist." It's in fact the term the Communist Party chose to represent themselves to the American public in the early 20th Century.
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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 109 of 116 (333824)
07-20-2006 8:29 PM
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07-20-2006 8:17 PM


Re: OK, here's some evidence that the media is biased to the right
clearly there's something wrong with the study. the organization must be biased.

just thought i'd preempt the inevitable.


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SuperNintendo Chalmers
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Message 110 of 116 (333836)
07-20-2006 9:00 PM
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07-20-2006 8:27 PM


Re: OK, here's some evidence that the media is biased to the right
FYI... Liberlism and Socialism (which are very different things) have little to nothing to do with Communism (which is an economic system with a command economy).

There are many, many, capitalist socialist democracies in the world... (in fact you actually live in one... although the US leans a bit more towards capitalism and less towards socialism than much of western europe)


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Message 111 of 116 (333838)
07-20-2006 9:07 PM
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07-20-2006 8:27 PM


Re: OK, here's some evidence that the media is biased to the right
Their study may be accurate for all I know, but "progressive" is a synonym for "leftist." It's in fact the term the Communist Party chose to represent themselves to the American public in the early 20th Century.

Can you back this up? Everything I've been able to dig up on this suggests you're wrong.

Specifically the Progressive Party of the early 20th. Century was not anything to do with the Communist Party.

The Communists called themselves Communists from the formation of the Communist Party Of the USA in 1919 onwards, and prior to that Socialists.

The Wikipedia article on progressivism in the US says modern progressivism is leftist, that of the early 20th. Century was not.


Oops! Wrong Planet
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Message 112 of 116 (333839)
07-20-2006 9:14 PM
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07-20-2006 8:27 PM


Re: OK, here's some evidence that the media is biased to the right
quote:
Their study may be accurate for all I know,

That's right.

Did you read the article?

Did you read how conservative journalists and Republicans are consistently more prevalent on the "leftist" media networks' their political shows? Did you read that the solo speeches on these shows were given to conservatives and Republicans much more frequently than to progressives or Democrats?

Why would "leftist" networks would do this?

quote:
but "progressive" is a synonym for "leftist." It's in fact the term the Communist Party chose to represent themselves to the American public in the early 20th Century.

So?

Doesn't the content and accuracy of the article matter to you at all?

Are you so incredibly biased against anything you don't already agree with that you refuse to even read it?

Edited by schrafinator, : No reason given.


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Message 113 of 116 (333840)
07-20-2006 9:16 PM
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07-20-2006 9:00 PM


Re: OK, here's some evidence that the media is biased to the right
technically, liberalism refers to the ideology that individual liberties are superior to (generally) the divine right of kings, more broadly, it refers to any kind of democratic system which involves the common public in the government in any way, shape, or form.

even "american liberalism" refers to 'a broad political and philosophical mindset, favoring liberty, and opposing restrictions on liberty,' which is a traditionally CONSERVATIVE position. "liberals" used to be the ones in support of government restrictions.


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SuperNintendo Chalmers
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Message 114 of 116 (333844)
07-20-2006 9:33 PM
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07-20-2006 9:16 PM


Re: OK, here's some evidence that the media is biased to the right
even "american liberalism" refers to 'a broad political and philosophical mindset, favoring liberty, and opposing restrictions on liberty,' which is a traditionally CONSERVATIVE position. "liberals" used to be the ones in support of government restrictions.

Good points brenna.... Reminds me of why I used to be a "conervative" and now am a "liberal".

The funny thing is... I still believe in a lot of the same things.

Weird how that works


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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 115 of 116 (333845)
07-20-2006 9:39 PM
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07-20-2006 9:33 PM


Re: OK, here's some evidence that the media is biased to the right
i actually consider myself a libertarian with socialist tendencies. and yes i do know precisely how schitzophrenic that is.
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Message 116 of 116 (335648)
07-27-2006 6:27 AM
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07-20-2006 9:14 PM


bump for Faith
What, no reponse?
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