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nator Member (Idle past 2196 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
In a recent thread, it was claimed in an aside that the US mainstream news media, including PBS, was "leftist".
There was a vain attempt made, by several posters, to point out to the claimant that the news outlets mentioned were generally centrist, not leftist, and that their own far-right position made them think that everything left of their own view was "leftist". I myself asked the claimant the obvious question, "CBS, ABC, NBC, and PBS are all Communist news media?" ...because, to me, "leftist" means "Communist". I am hoping that someone (hopefully the claimant) can show how the US mainstream mnews media is truly leftist and not centrist.
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nator Member (Idle past 2196 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: So, does this mean that you call "leftist" any media or, say, government entity that advocates strong central governement influence on the activities of American citizens?
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nator Member (Idle past 2196 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Bush said that no American citizens were wiretapped without a warrant. We know that to be a lie.
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nator Member (Idle past 2196 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: No, we don't know that. When was the last time you spent any appreciable amount of time on a University, Faith? Have you ever? And as to your claim that the Ivy's are all Marxists...both George Bush Sr. and Dubbya are leftists, being Yale graduates. Right?
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nator Member (Idle past 2196 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Why don't you give us some examples of how the mainstream US media is extremely leftist. Paste some quotes that show a consistent far left position. Time to ante up and lay your cards on the table. Show us what you've got. It would be helpful if you could give a brief description of what you believe to be a centrist, as opposed to a leftist, political view.
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nator Member (Idle past 2196 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
And now comes the time for me to repeatedly, yet pointlessly, ask Faith to provide examples illustrating the truth of her claims.
It happened here, in Message #88.
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nator Member (Idle past 2196 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: I think it is terribly necessary for several reasons. First, I would hate to fail to utilize the help of someone as obviously informed as you are on this subject. Perhaps your examples will help me see that I have been so terribly blind to all these years. You seem so utterly confident in your position that I was sure that you must have in your posession many such examples of leftist media bias.
quote: Er, it is most certainly required that you provide evidence for why you hold the views that you do if you want to be taken at all seriously. If you don't, then I will be forced to believe that you cannot support your position with any evidence. If so I will be forced to continue suspecting that you are simply a partisan zealot that is merely shooting her mouth off about something she doesn't know anything about, can't support, and believes blindly because it makes her feel righteous.
quote: Well, that's why I asked about how you judge if something is "left" or "right". I asked, and you didn't answer, the following question:
So, does this mean that you call "leftist" any media or, say, government entity that advocates strong central governement influence on the activities of American citizens? Care to now?
quote: I wouldn't have asked if I was simply going to dismiss it, Faith. I don't dismiss arguments before a person even makes them. Remember, I'm not like you. Edited by schrafinator, : No reason given.
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nator Member (Idle past 2196 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: I didn't ask for dozens, my chronically hyperbolic friend. "Several" would be plenty. Oh, and yes, I actually can, on demand, come up with several examples of the sort you mention. It's not difficult at all.
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nator Member (Idle past 2196 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Asking you to support your assertions with a SINGLE piece of evidence is "bullying"? Poor, poor Faith.
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nator Member (Idle past 2196 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
This link goes to a progressive non-profit media watchdog group which compiled a study which shows that there is a bias in favor of conservative guests on the three major political discussion shows, Face the Nation, Meet the Press, and This Week.
On February 14, Media Matters for America released a comprehensive study analyzing the guest appearances on ABC's This Week, CBS' Face the Nation, and NBC's Meet the Press from 1997 through 2005. In April, Media Matters released an update to that study, analyzing the shows for the first quarter of 2006. In both reports, the results demonstrated that Republicans and conservatives dominated on all three Sunday shows. Media Matters has now completed an analysis of the second quarter of 2006, April through June, and the key conclusions reached in the first two studies remain unchanged. Republicans and conservatives outnumber Democrats and progressives. More conservative journalists appear than progressive journalists. Panels are more likely to be imbalanced toward the right than toward the left. Republicans and conservatives are given more solo interviews. In short, the title we gave to our original study -- "If It's Sunday, It's Conservative" -- remains true. link to article
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nator Member (Idle past 2196 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: That's right. Did you read the article? Did you read how conservative journalists and Republicans are consistently more prevalent on the "leftist" media networks' their political shows? Did you read that the solo speeches on these shows were given to conservatives and Republicans much more frequently than to progressives or Democrats? Why would "leftist" networks would do this?
quote: So? Doesn't the content and accuracy of the article matter to you at all? Are you so incredibly biased against anything you don't already agree with that you refuse to even read it? Edited by schrafinator, : No reason given.
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nator Member (Idle past 2196 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
What, no reponse?
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