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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
If you say that one "so and so" member lives in this building, you have to go after that person, not say, "well we killed 200 women and children in the process, but "WE GOT HIM!" WHY AREN'T YOU ASKING WHY THE TERRORISTS LOCATE THEMSELVES AMONG INNOCENT PEOPLE AND YELLING AT THEM INSTEAD OF AT ISRAEL??
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I asked you in another thread: If the terrorists are criminals, why are they not treated like criminals? You are just playing with words. The question really IS why aren't they being treated as criminals? The entire world should be treating them as criminals.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You guys don't live in the real world. Parasomnium, Nighttrain, Ringo, Jaderis. I give up.
Here's a real solution. Cadres and legions of Christians from all over the world, but especially America, should be going into both Lebanon and Israel and all over the Middle East. By the thousands. Under heavy prayer cover. To help anyone who needs it, Christian or Muslim or Jew, and to preach the gospel of salvation in Christ alone. They will probably die like flies, butchered by the terrorists, possibly killed by friendly fire as well. But that's what it's going to take to change the situation. I will now stop arguing and start praying. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm sorry, what is demonstrably false? I stop reading after a while and probably missed it.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The bit where they said 'Annan refuses to do x', which is not true since Annan does not refuse to do it all. Annan has condemned anti-Israel terrorism on a number of occasions. So the truth is that I disagreed with you about the supposed "demonstrated proof." Sure, literally sometimes he puts the words together that seem to say he condemns anti-Israel terrorism, as so many do, but it's just lip service. All the media do the same, dutifully mouthing the words from time to time, same as everybody here does too. But in practical reality, terrorism is put on an equal footing with Israel's defensive position, treated as a legitimate cause. Sympathy is in their direction, not Israel's, and it is Israel that is far and away the one preponderantly rebuked by the UN for its defensive actions. What condemning anti-Israel terrorism would REALLY look like would be proclaiming it in believable tones, calling on the world to condemn it, and backing it up with threats that are followed up with action. If they did that honestly, the list of UN rebukes of the terrorists would at least equal the list for Israel, because for every rebuke of Israel there is a terrorist action -- or a dozen of them -- that provoked the rebuked action by Israel but went unrebuked itself. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The insincerity is obvious in the actions. You interpret them differently because of YOUR bias. What you are calling a "material fact" is nothing but empty words. But again that's my bias. And again, the only right thing to do is STOP THE TERRORISM, and that is not happening. All that is happening is that the only nations TRYING to stop the terrorism are being condemned for it.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Another piece of pure bias that I believe to be the truth.
FrontPageMagazine.com | August 1, 2006 By Alan M. DershowitzSunday was a day of great triumph for Hezbollah quote: Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Another totally biased piece, by a Christian Lebanese woman
Lebanese Diversity on the Line By Brigitte GabrielFrontPageMagazine.com | August 1, 2006 quote: |
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You guys don't live in the real world. Parasomnium, Nighttrain, Ringo, Jaderis. I give up.
Come on Faith, that's too easy. What's so other-worldly about denouncing violence as a solution to a problem? So you're Israel, and you refuse to retaliate against Hezbollah, or against Hamas or any of them. You throw down your arms. What is going to happen in your very very wise and indeed prescient opinion? Actually, as soon as I said it I have to admit there was something daringly exciting about it. I only wish I didn't know what would happen. Now if they threw down their weapons and put their trust in the God of Israel, THEN something wonderful would happen. Unfortunately Israel, for all its supposed Zionist inspiration, is a secular atheist state. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Talk is useless because one side of the table never tells the truth unless it temporarily furthers their ultimate purpose of getting rid of Israel for good. Deliver us please from any more "peace" agreements.
And the side that never tells the truth isn't going to stop its terrorism either. During the talks they will be regrouping their forces, and emboldened by Israel's being in a strait jacket again, repairing their Hezbollah positions and increasing their arsenals in Palestine as well, right up against Israel. The longer the useless talking goes on, the more time they have for this purpose. The problem is that your proposal puts Israel at a disadvantage. The terrorists don't care what the world thinks of them except as a strategic maneuver, for which purpose they are willing to create all kinds of illusions and deceptions. If they have time enough to build up strength, they can ignore everybody else. And we'll end up in WWIII that way just as surely as any other way.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
"the context of his right wing politics" sure sounds to me like you are calling him a conservative. He says he's not. That's all I know.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I don't believe in the rapture unless it's the Second Coming when it's all over for everybody anyway, and don't address me as if I do.
Do I think that Hezbollah thought that Israel would just talk when who attacked? Who went ahead anyway doing what? I really don't know what you are trying to say here. What is happening is what who wants to happen? Yes I expect eventually an American city may very well be nuked.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Point taken. Thanks for the correction.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Obviously no non-Muslim has ever feigned illness before. How often do they do it as an entrapment in order to kill people? Don't bother answering. This game is endless.
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