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arachnophilia
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Message 31 of 233 (337111)
08-01-2006 12:34 AM
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07-31-2006 7:43 PM


Re: image and likeness
Yep. We're old-school around here
you can get a firefox plugin for that. but i find it's faster just to type them.
Have you read the thread on The Difference Between Created and Formed? If you're saying Adam was "formed" on day three but not "created" until day six, you might want to man the pumps now.
most people have it the other way. i think both are a little, well, out there. they are simply two different (slightly contradictory) stories, with the same basic points, and different emphasis.
but i'm trying to figure out a good argument to post in repsonse to the op.


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Message 32 of 233 (337133)
08-01-2006 1:53 AM
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07-31-2006 7:30 PM


Re: Why adam not mentioned on the third day
Purpledawn,
What in Genesis 2 supports that idea?
Not a whole lot in Genesis 2, but a few things.
1. He had no knowledge of good and evil.
2. He was all alone.
3. He was naked and unashamed.
Does this sound like a complete, fulfilled life? Not only that but later on he saw sin and death. No one is a complete vessel without Christ!
Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
The author of Genesis 1 had access to the Garden of Eden Story and wrote Gen 1 accordingly. That author did not put the creation of man on day 3.
Can you show how the author of Genesis 1 followed the Garden of Eden story?

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Message 33 of 233 (337136)
08-01-2006 2:18 AM
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07-31-2006 7:43 PM


created and formed
Ringo,
Have you read the thread on The Difference Between Created and Formed? If you're saying Adam was "formed" on day three but not "created" until day six, you might want to man the pumps now.
From what I have read (the first post) the author appears to be trying to show a difference between created and formed and this somehow makes Genesis 1 and 2 different events. Genesis 2 essentially happening after Genesis 1.
I don't agree with that. First, Gen 1 and 2 I believe are simultaneous. Second, although there is a difference between created and formed, it doesn't solve the problem.
Something that is formed is usually having to do with earth, clay, or something that existed previously in another state. It is synonymous with created but a more specific type of creation. "Created" is a much broader general term, could be referring to anything.
If you "formed" something, you could easily replace that word and say that you "created" it.

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Message 34 of 233 (337140)
08-01-2006 3:30 AM
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08-01-2006 2:18 AM


Re: created and formed
graft2vine writes:
If you "formed" something, you could easily replace that word and say that you "created" it.
Yes, the gist of that thread is that "created" and "formed" are synonymous - i.e. not refering to different "methods". I just wanted you to be aware of that thread in case you were heading down the same road (in your boat - pardon the mixed metaphor ).
If you're not claiming a two-step creation/forming of Adam, I don't see how you can conclude that he was created on the third day when Genesis 1 explicitly says that he was created on the sixth day.

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Message 35 of 233 (337152)
08-01-2006 6:59 AM
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08-01-2006 1:53 AM


Re: Why adam not mentioned on the third day
quote:
Can you show how the author of Genesis 1 followed the Garden of Eden story?
In Message 13 you stated:
Genesis 1 and 2 are of the same order.
In Message 7 you stated:
The focus of chapter one is the days, and in chapter two the focus is the creation of man. But the creation of man should not contradict the order of events in Genesis one. Namely the implication that man was created first, then the plants and the animals.
I can understand how you could draw the conclusion that Adam was created on the 3rd day, but that would make the stories contradict each other since the later author didn't seem to draw that conclusion.
The Garden of Eden story is not concerned with the cosmic. On the day when ADONAI, God, made earth and heaven. Probably began in a time of less cosmis knowledge.
Genesis 1 was written considerably later when people understood the cosmos a bit better. In the beginning God created heaven, and earth.
So let's see how they might have come up with Genesis 1 from reading the Garden of Eden story.
Genesis 2
On the day when ADONAI, God, made earth and heaven, 5 there was as yet no wild bush on the earth, and no wild plant had as yet sprung up; for ADONAI, God, had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no one to cultivate the ground. 6 Rather, a mist went up from the earth which watered the entire surface of the ground. (Genesis 1:1-23)
7 Then ADONAI, God, formed a person from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, so that he became a living being.
8 ADONAI, God, planted a garden toward the east, in 'Eden, and there he put the person whom he had formed. 9 Out of the ground ADONAI, God, caused to grow every tree pleasing in appearance and good for food, including the tree of life in the middle of the garden and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. ...
18 ADONAI, God, said, "It isn't good that the person should be alone. I will make for him a companion suitable for helping him." 19 So from the ground ADONAI, God, formed every wild animal... (Genesis 1:24-31)
The beasts in Genesis 1 were created the same day as Adam which was day 6.
Genesis 1
24 And God said: Let the earth bring forth the living creature in its kind, cattle and creeping things, and beasts of the earth, according to their kinds. And it was so done. 25 And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds, and cattle, and every thing that creepeth on the earth after its kind. And God saw that it was good.
26 And he said: Let us make man to our image and likeness: ...
31 And God saw all the things that he had made, and they were very good. And the evening and morning were the sixth day.
So what support do you have for your theory that Adam was created on day three?

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Message 36 of 233 (337160)
08-01-2006 7:39 AM
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08-01-2006 1:53 AM


Re: Why adam not mentioned on the third day
I don't know..
The fact he was naked, alone and unashamed just makes him like the rest of the beasts (except the unalone).
It is the knowleged of good and evil that rises him above the level of the beasts, and is just part of God's plan. I don't see from the text that man was created/formed/whatever on the third day at all.
Bringing in something from a later book , IMO, is irrelavent.

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Message 37 of 233 (337413)
08-02-2006 2:57 PM
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08-01-2006 3:30 AM


Re: created and formed
If you're not claiming a two-step creation/forming of Adam, I don't see how you can conclude that he was created on the third day when Genesis 1 explicitly says that he was created on the sixth day.
Actually, yes I am claiming a two step creation of Adam. The difference between created and formed however has not entered into my argument. I can make a minor point about it though... its not something that I will build doctrine around (reason being that there are "ifs" and "coulds" in it).
So... If the sixth day creation of Adam was the same as the one in Genesis 2, the author could have used the same word 'formed'. It could have been used but didn't have to, 'created' although a little less specific is still suitable. Again, 'formed' is a specific type of creation referring to something earthy or physical. 'Created' is non specific and could refer even to the creation of something spiritual.
In Genesis 5, the word 'created' is used to refer to what I believe is the 3rd day creation of Adam:
Gen 5:1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
There are a couple clues here. First is the use of 'In the day' - which lines up with 'in the day' in Gen 2:4. I believe is the third day based on the context. Second is that Adam is made in the "likeness of God". Why likeness and not image?
Some differences I see in the two-step creation:
3rd day creation - Adam created/formed from the earth; He is made a living soul; He does not have dominion over the entire earth, but is placed in God's garden to labor in it, making him a servant; He is all alone; He has no knowledge of good and evil; He is the first Adam.
6th day creation - Adam is created in the image of *God; He is made a quickening spirit; He is given dominion over the earth; He is made one with his wife, male and female; "the man is become as one of us, knowing good and evil"; He is the last Adam.
* God is invisible right? He is a spirit being that no man has seen at anytime. Now, if you put something invisible in front of a mirror do you see anything in the mirror? No, you cannot see the image of God!
The image of God was made in the likeness of men, so that you can see Him.
Phl 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Jesus is the image of God... He does what His Father does. He is also in the likeness of men... He can be seen by man, is comparable but does not do the sinful deeds of men. Therefore He is not the image of man. We on the other hand have:
1Cr 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
You must be born again to enter Heaven, You must be born again on the 6th day and become one with Christ.
Eph 5:31-32 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
You must then be fruitful and multiply, bearing spiritual food, and to rule and reign (have dominion) with Christ as the head over all the earth, over every living thing. The Spirit takes dominion over the soul! And then to enter His rest on the seventh day.
I can get carried away with spiritual application, but will also defend the literal.
Here is a comparison of Genesis one and two... I've inserted verses in the appropriate places to show continuity.
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.


Gen 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.
15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Gen 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
Gen 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
Gen 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

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Message 38 of 233 (337420)
08-02-2006 3:41 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by purpledawn
08-01-2006 6:59 AM


Re: Why adam not mentioned on the third day
PD,
The beasts in Genesis 1 were created the same day as Adam which was day 6.
But by combining all those events in Genesis 2 into one day from Adam to the creation of beasts, you have the creation of plants (day 3) and birds (day 5).
How do you account for that?
So what support do you have for your theory that Adam was created on day three?
I have been giving support throughout this entire thread. For more support I have kind of combined this into my last reply to Ringo.

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Message 39 of 233 (337424)
08-02-2006 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by graft2vine
08-02-2006 2:57 PM


Re: created and formed
graft2vine writes:
God is invisible right? He is a spirit being that no man has seen at anytime.
Wrong. Several people saw Him at various times. Moses is an obvious example.
... if you put something invisible in front of a mirror do you see anything in the mirror? No, you cannot see the image of God!
The image of God was made in the likeness of men, so that you can see Him.
Since God is not necessarily invisible, your image/likeness idea falls apart - again.
(I thought you were dropping that anyway. )
I can get carried away with spiritual application....
Don't do that. Long sermons don't go over very well around here.
You need a captive audience for that.
I don't necessarily have a problem with the spiritual implications you are drawing. The point I'm having trouble with is that Genesis 1 explicitly says that man was not created until the sixth day.
I don't see how you can conclude a two-step creation of Adam when it is not mentioned in Genesis.

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Message 40 of 233 (337427)
08-02-2006 4:09 PM
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08-01-2006 7:39 AM


Re: Why adam not mentioned on the third day
Ramoss,
It is the knowleged of good and evil that rises him above the level of the beasts, and is just part of God's plan. I don't see from the text that man was created/formed/whatever on the third day at all.
Having the knowledge of good and evil brought Adam one step closer in the process of being made in God's image. This gave him the ability to discern.
Hbr 5:13-6:1 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection;

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Message 41 of 233 (337438)
08-02-2006 4:55 PM
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08-02-2006 3:57 PM


seeing God
Wrong. Several people saw Him at various times. Moses is an obvious example.
You can only see God with spiritual eyes, through the eyes of the Son.
Jhn 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
You might say that you see God if you see Jesus (who was manifested at certain points in the OT also). But you only see God through the things that He does. The outward appearance is just a container, that we are not to worship. The son of God is inside the son of man.
Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Since God is not necessarily invisible, your image/likeness idea falls apart - again.
(I thought you were dropping that anyway. )
I was droping "the Bible is not redundant" not image and likeness.
Genesis 1 explicitly says that man was not created until the sixth day.
No, it merely does not mention man until day six.
I don't see how you can conclude a two-step creation of Adam when it is not mentioned in Genesis.
Step 1 - Genesis 2
Step 2 - Genesis 1

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Message 42 of 233 (337462)
08-02-2006 5:37 PM
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Re: seeing God
grape2vine writes:
You can only see God with spiritual eyes, through the eyes of the Son.
No....
quote:
Gen 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.
quote:
Gen 32:30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
quote:
Gen 35:7 And he built there an altar, and called the place El-bethel: because there God appeared unto him, when he fled from the face of his brother.
And on and on....
God is not necessarily invisible. The whole image/likeness thing is a non-starter.
Genesis 1 explicitly says that man was not created until the sixth day.
No, it merely does not mention man until day six.
It doesn't mention the Eiffel Tower either. You can't build a theory on what isn't mentioned.
What it does mention is that God didn't even think about creating man until the sixth day:
quote:
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
After that, He created man:
quote:
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
That happened on the sixth day.
Are you just trying to reconcile the different orders of Genesis 1 and Genesis 2?
We had a thread on that.
Are you trying to say that Adam was "created" and then "formed" (or "formed" and then "created")?
We have a thread on that too.
Otherwise, all I see in your argument is adding a blatant contradiction that isn't even in the text.
Seems like a strange approach to accuracy and inerrancy.

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Message 43 of 233 (337474)
08-02-2006 5:58 PM
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Re: seeing God
Jhn 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time;
except jacob.
oh, and moses.


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Message 44 of 233 (337666)
08-03-2006 10:25 AM
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Two Different Authors
quote:
But by combining all those events in Genesis 2 into one day from Adam to the creation of beasts, you have the creation of plants (day 3) and birds (day 5).
I didn't combine them into one day. The writer of Genesis 1 spread it over 5 days with beast and man created on the sixth day.
The writer of the Eden story didn't really specify days.
quote:
I have been giving support throughout this entire thread. For more support I have kind of combined this into my last reply to Ringo.
My support against your theory is that Genesis 1 is a later writing supported by the Documentary Hypothesis and in Message 35 I showed you how Genesis 1 could be written with the Eden story as a resource.
You have shown how you have inserted the Eden story into Genesis one, but there is still no support for Adam being created on day 3. I understand why you are saying that, but there is no evidence within the Bible to support your theory. Genesis 1 and 2 are two different authors and neither one was necessarily written to support the other. Each had their own purpose for what they wrote.
All we've shown is that we can shoehorn these writings together in two different ways.
What you are missing from what I've provided is that since Genesis 1 is a later priestly writing, the priest (inspired by God) listed man as created on the 6th day.
Your presentation is fine for a sermon, but this is a debate in a science forum. You need more "evidence" to support your theory.

"Peshat is what I say and derash is what you say." --Nehama Leibowitz

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Message 45 of 233 (337703)
08-03-2006 1:00 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by ringo
08-02-2006 5:37 PM


Re: seeing God
God is not necessarily invisible. The whole image/likeness thing is a non-starter.
God is visible and yet He is not, its all in the eye of the beholder.
It doesn't mention the Eiffel Tower either. You can't build a theory on what isn't mentioned.
But lets say that the Eiffel Tower was actually created on the sixth day. Because it is not mentioned, would that somehow make it not exist?
What it does mention is that God didn't even think about creating man until the sixth day:
The earth was created for man, so yes God thought about it beforehand.
Isa 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Did God not mention creating man until the 6th day or was it creating man in God's image?
The first mention of God creating man as a living soul is not in Genesis 1, but in 2:
Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Man was made as a living soul which is consistant with the creation of every other living thing. Being made in God's image would make him distinguished above all else, but that is not mentioned here.
The first man is said to be made a living soul:
1Cr 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
Nowhere in scripture is a reference to the "first man" or "first Adam" being made in the image of God.

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