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Author Topic:   Definition and Effect of Having A Soul
New Cat's Eye
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Message 20 of 29 (337907)
08-04-2006 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Larni
08-03-2006 9:05 AM


I second that.
Here are some description upthread that I agree with.
jar writes:
the word soul refers to that part of me which is immortal, which will continue after I die
Faith writes:
Now I equate it (the soul) with my I-ness, my consciousness, my whole feeling-thinking-willing self apart from my body, which I was always aware of but for some reason didn't identify by the term "soul," the invisible part of me which is the real me.
The soul is some kind of non-physical/spiritual component of our existence. There’s a lot of differences in what people think it is, but it is clear that we’re all talking about something. There IS something there. Is it a delusion? I conclude that it is not.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 21 of 29 (337910)
08-04-2006 11:05 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by sidelined
08-03-2006 11:40 AM


I would equate it with a sense of harmony in reference to the connection between a person's consciousness and the world around them. That said I also think this to be an illusion resulting from the structure of the brain and nervous system. This does not make it any less special in terms of human activity just less mystical.
So we got this brain that has no nerves attached to a system of nerves that the brain is constantly recieving input from. The brain 'feels' the seperation from the body that makes people think that they are something other than their body (brain included). But this is a self delusion resulting from the constant nervous input to the brain with no input from the brain.
To me, this doesn't cover the all feelings I have that I do have a soul. It seems more to me than just that. I don't find this explanation convincing because there's more to it, to me. It does make sense how some of the feeling I have could be caused by this though.
We humans tend to give greater weight to the things that happen in our own skulls as though we are incapable of decieving ourselves in order to support the illusion we find give us hope ,purpose or meaning in the universe.
Certainly a valid position for you to take. You've got the bases covered but I just can't get over the 'obvious' existence of my soul. Is it that the delusion is just that good, maybe that I want to be deluded? I've considered all this and still have to conclude that I do have a soul. (Not that you're trying to convince me otherwise.)

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 22 of 29 (337912)
08-04-2006 11:11 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by lfen
08-04-2006 3:40 AM


I could put it that I am a soul and further point out that there being only one it's the same soul for everyone. The diversity is out there in the perceived manifesting universe.
That reminds me of a line from the System of a Down song Aerials:
quote:
Life is a waterfall,
We're one in the river,
And one again after the fall.
Our souls are like the droplets in the waterfall...whadaya think?

Science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence.
Letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith, faith, faith, faith.
Science has failed our world.
Science has failed our Mother Earth.
-System of a Down, "Science"

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