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lfen

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Message 16 of 29 (337854)
08-04-2006 3:30 AM

Reply to: Message 8 by robinrohan
08-03-2006 2:45 PM

A sense of harmony? What harmony? I haven't noticed much harmony.

Well, pay attention!

That is to say meditate.

lfen

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Message 17 of 29 (337855)
08-04-2006 3:40 AM

Reply to: Message 1 by Larni
08-03-2006 9:05 AM

I would like to asks everyone what is their definition of a soul?

Some believe we have one and some don't.

What is it that would have this "soul"? The soul is a possession or a part? That is implied by the English grammatical construction.

For me I think the non dual teachings of sage Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj points to a deeper understanding:

In every body there is a dream, but the dreamer is the same, the one Self, which reflects itself in each body as "I am".

All the dreams are of a common imaginary World and influence each other.

Love is seeing the unity under the imaginary diversity.

Excerpts from Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj's I AM THAT

Anything we point to as an object is subject to change. The body that is typing this can lose it's hands but still I am. The mind that is thinking can change its opinions but still I am. The feelings expressed change but still I am. So I am not body, ideas, feelings. Anything I can point to is an object. I am the subject. I don't have a soul. I could put it that I am a soul and further point out that there being only one it's the same soul for everyone. The diversity is out there in the perceived manifesting universe.

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Message 24 of 29 (337932)
08-04-2006 12:43 PM

Reply to: Message 22 by New Cat's Eye
08-04-2006 11:11 AM

Our souls are like the droplets in the waterfall...whadaya think?

I think that is a good metaphor. Variations of it are used frequently by Eastern sages, sometimes in the metaphor of a river arriving at the sea.

I would emphasize that the sense of individual "soul" comes from a temporary configuration of water, that is to say that it is momentarily a drop and has mistaken that "form" for its substance when it is water and though the form may cease the substance endures.

lfen