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jar
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Message 16 of 164 (338762)
08-09-2006 5:51 PM
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08-09-2006 5:47 PM


Re: Depends on whether you believe the books.
The question though is about religion and logic. You do agree though that ALL Jews, even today hold the proscription against women making coffee, don't you?

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Message 17 of 164 (338764)
08-09-2006 5:54 PM
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08-09-2006 5:51 PM


Re: Depends on whether you believe the books.
You do agree though that ALL Jews, even today hold the proscription against women making coffee, don't you?
Surely not all Jews.

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jar
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Message 18 of 164 (338766)
08-09-2006 5:58 PM
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08-09-2006 5:54 PM


Re: Depends on whether you believe the books.
Sure seems so. It is, as I said, so important it was made part of the Christian Canon and adopted as an identity by Jews. It is perhaps the most pervasive designation for all Jews regardless of where they live or which sect they belong to.

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MangyTiger
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Message 19 of 164 (338771)
08-09-2006 6:03 PM
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08-09-2006 5:33 PM


Re: Depends on whether you believe the books.
For example, the Christian religions all agree that only men should make coffee.
I'm a Bible illiterate so you're going to have to explain this one to me.

Oops! Wrong Planet

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mjfloresta
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Message 20 of 164 (338772)
08-09-2006 6:06 PM
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08-09-2006 5:58 PM


Re: Depends on whether you believe the books.
Where are you getting this prohibition of women making coffee from? I've never heard of such a thing either for Jews (I have many Jewish friends) or for Christians?

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jar
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Message 21 of 164 (338774)
08-09-2006 6:07 PM
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08-09-2006 6:03 PM


Re: Depends on whether you believe the books.
The answer is actually in the message. Those who can see, let them see.

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robinrohan
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Message 22 of 164 (338775)
08-09-2006 6:07 PM
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08-09-2006 6:03 PM


Re: Depends on whether you believe the books.
I'm a Bible illiterate so you're going to have to explain this one to me.
The coffee bean was considered an aphrodisiac.

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kalimero
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Message 23 of 164 (338777)
08-09-2006 6:09 PM
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08-09-2006 5:51 PM


Re: Depends on whether you believe the books.
Actually I dont know about that, sorry

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jar
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Message 24 of 164 (338778)
08-09-2006 6:09 PM
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08-09-2006 6:06 PM


Re: Depends on whether you believe the books.
A whole book of the New Testament is devoted to it. Also, as I have said, the Jews felt so strongly about it that they adopted it as a personal identifier.

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kalimero
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Message 25 of 164 (338780)
08-09-2006 6:13 PM
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08-09-2006 5:58 PM


Re: Depends on whether you believe the books.
I have had jewish women make coffee for me (no big deal). I have never encountered the behaviour you are talking about, or at lease not at the magnitude you speak of.

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jar
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Message 26 of 164 (338782)
08-09-2006 6:17 PM
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08-09-2006 6:13 PM


Re: Depends on whether you believe the books.
Shame on you. After all:

HeBrews


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mjfloresta
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Message 27 of 164 (338783)
08-09-2006 6:17 PM
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08-09-2006 6:09 PM


Re: Depends on whether you believe the books.
Which book of the Bible addresses this?

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jar
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Message 28 of 164 (338786)
08-09-2006 6:20 PM
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08-09-2006 6:17 PM


Re: Depends on whether you believe the books.

HeBrews


Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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mjfloresta
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Message 29 of 164 (338787)
08-09-2006 6:23 PM
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08-09-2006 6:20 PM


Re: Depends on whether you believe the books.
WHAT? What chapter and verse?

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Clark
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Message 30 of 164 (338788)
08-09-2006 6:24 PM
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08-09-2006 6:20 PM


Re: Depends on whether you believe the books.

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