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Author Topic:   The Law Of Contradiction
Ender
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Message 1 of 177 (339173)
08-11-2006 11:07 AM


This is my first Topic on these forums, so please be kind. =)
Many of the arguments against religion/faith/creation that I see on this site seem to be implicitly recognizing the Law Of Contradiction. In other words they are trying to show that there is a contradiction inherent in the belief in God or in the bible, and therefore that God does not exist or the bible is not true. I am curious if that is in fact where these arguments stem from, and if so, does everyone accept this Law as a fundamental truth.
Here is a simple explanation of the Law Of Contradiction (or Noncontradiction as it is sometimes called).
Law of noncontradiction - Wikipedia
Possibly the "Is It Science?" forum.
Edited by Ender, : Forum suggestion.

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Ender
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Message 7 of 177 (339190)
08-11-2006 12:24 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Hyroglyphx
08-11-2006 11:54 AM


Re: Welcome to EvC
I agree with most of what you say, but I'd say that most of the atheists on here are aware of this law and are aware that they can no more disprove God than you could prove God.
It seems to me that they ARE trying to disprove God using the Law of Contradiction. In fact if it is accepted that the Law of Contradiction is true, then it is in reality the only way TO disprove God (considering that the only way to disprove something outside of time/space, i.e. without evidence, is to prove that it is self-contradicting).

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Ender
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Message 8 of 177 (339191)
08-11-2006 12:29 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Hyroglyphx
08-11-2006 11:54 AM


Re: Welcome to EvC
Case in point: I don't believe in flying-purple elephants. Because I don't believe in them I find no compulsion to argue about their existence, much less give it any thought. But this doesnt work for the atheist, otherwise, why not just spend as much time attempting to refute the existence of the flying-purple elephant? Why not something arbitrary to argue about? Why?-- Its because there is something in them that is mindful of their Creator and the mere fact that they give Him such 'undue' attention should speak very loudly to you that they do in fact care and that they are in fact effected by the notion of God.
That would be true except that there are no religions based on Flying Purple Elephants, nor are their any people that tell you that if you don't believe in their version of FPE (for example FPEs with jet packs or FPEs with wings) you will burn in a very hot hell.
The belief in a God has had a much greater impact on history and is so much a part of out current life/politics that it can't be simply ignored, even by non-believers.

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Ender
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Message 114 of 177 (339521)
08-12-2006 11:16 AM


Wow!
I didn't think that my simple (or maybe not so simple) question would expand into such a debate!
I do think that my original intention for posting this forum has been a little lost. I don't think that I want to go back to it, but I do want to know one thing:
Can the following statment be proven false:
God exists.
If not, why not? If it can, can the Law of Contradiction do it?

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