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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
robinrohan writes: What about agnostics? Can we throw them into the atheist camp for all practical purposes? No.
nemesis_juggernaut writes: atheist, agnostic or theist. You left out "undecided". (That's an observation, not a vote.) Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
subbie writes: You left out "undecided'. Ummmmmmm..... isn't that agnostic, at least as commonly understood? Nope. An agnostic doesn't know. An "undecided" hasn't decided what to do with what he does know. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
subbie writes: ... academic for purposes of the current poll. None the less, it leaves me disenfranchised. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
robinrohan writes: ... nihilism makes the most sense. Just so you know, somebody's been using your identity. There have been several posts in a row under your name that don't contain the word "nihilism". Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Buzsaw writes: Ringo, agnostics don't know what to do with what they do know. Kinda like having only two bullets in your gun and not knowing who to shoot first?
If they knew and decided, they'd be either athiests or theists. Six of one and a half-dozen of the other. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
nemesis_juggernaut writes: Ringo stated that he was undecided. That's as close to Agnosticism as we could get. Nonsense. I can be equally close to all four official categories. Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't. Sometimes you don't care one way or the other and sometimes you just don't want to be bothered.
As far as Ringo, I will take him off the list if he requests it. robin voted for me - on this side of the border, that's illegal. I didn't protest because I didn't want to waste any more posts on the subject (and I don't want to see robin go to jail). But since you bring it up: why can't I have my own category, like Dr.Jones?You could call it "Ringo - in a class by himself". Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
nemesis_juggernaut writes: "Ringo - in a class by himself" ... Its as good as done. Thank you. I am accepting applications for disciples. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
sidelined writes: How much does it pay and are there benefits? The trouble with atheists is they need so much training. In the religion game, you make your own pay and benefits. The sky's the limit. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
nwr writes: I am accepting applications for disciples. Then you wouldn't be in a class by yourself. But I'll always be the Head of the class.
In any case, nobody can follow Ringo. Ringo keeps his "followers" in front, where he can see them. Prepare for dispensation of wrath. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Buzsaw writes: In fact Ringo may already be a secret believer or so near that agnostic sounds too dangerous a position for him to voice publicly before God and men. Ringo used to be a believer. But Ringo learned: what Buzsaw thinks he knows, he doesn't know. Buzsaw is an agnostic, even if he doesn't know it. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Please do not drag the nice tidy thread off topic by discussing behaviours robinrohan writes: ... the practical result of agnosticism is that you behave as though God did not exist. Many theists also behave as if God did not exist. Edited by AdminNosy, : No reason given. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
iano writes: If our own knowing means one cannot know then adding the knowledge of others (consensus) who cannot know either is simply the sum of no one knowing anything. 1+1+1+1+1+1+1 = 1 Your math is off. It should be 0+0+0+0+0+0+0 = 0. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
arachnophilia writes: ringo copped out? come on ringo, i was really curious It's not a cop-out. I am all over the place. Although I appreciate nemesis_juggernaut finally showing a sense of humour about something, my point was partly serious. All of us are in a category by ourselves. We can't really know where anybody else stands. All we can do is guess who seems to be standing close to us. Setting up arbitrary categories is just asking people which float they want to ride on.I prefer to march to my own drummer. (Alternate answer: I am God. ) Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
purpledawn writes: I do think one needs to stay consistant within a thread, but in a new thread a person could choose to take the opposite stance. I think it's even acceptable to take a "sliding" position within a thread, if something you learn does change your position - as long as you acknowledge the change.
quote: Of course, you're always welcome to come over to Ring-side. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes: My idea of an agnostic is someone who has never met or felt or realized the existance of God yet who remains open to the idea.... How would you categorize somebody who has felt the same things that theists feel (to the extent that one human can "know" what another human feels) but doesn't ascribe those feelings to an external entity? Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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