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Yes indeed, funkmaster, any sort of discussion would be fine with me. In ye olde daze, the Bible was used as the main book of instruction to teach reading and writing, among other things. I would have thought that scholars of the Bible even today would have picked up basic spelling and grammar by osmosis.
So, what do you think? Here's what I think. The Bible is supposed to be a guide to life, the universe and everything. Why, then, does it not tell me what to do in the event that I register a handle at and receive no confirmation email, thus forcing me to continue to post as a visitor while preventing me from using my "reserved" chosen name?
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pingu~ Guest |
My point would appear to be that Creationists don't read their Bibles very thoroughly. But that's debatable - perhaps good grammar and spelling are not obtainable by osmosis (I saw a Creationist write "devine" on another thread - sheesh!) or perhaps Creationists are unaware of how their poor English language skills are undermining their case, or perhaps they are just not very well educated.
Whatever. It's open for discussion.
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quote: What is your evidence that the world is worse off today, and that this is a result of an increase in education? What is the truth, and how do you know? What is your evidence that others who claim a different truth are wrong? Are education, knowledge and critical thinking not required in order to assess what is the truth?
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quote: Saw it - and thank you - I can only think that Hotmail is kindly deleting these messages for me. Doesn't matter.
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quote: Could you give me other examples of science that defy logic and common sense? I realise there may be teachers and scientists who are illogical and have little common sense, but I'm referring to science as a field of study, ie. a methodology.
quote: Okay, this is one example but I dispute it. Firstly, I think you mean *increase* in entropy (disorder) - given that, why does this defy logic? Entropy increases in a closed system. The Earth is not closed - we have a gazillion megawatts of energy from the Sun streaming into the system every second of the day. Also, common sense and simple observation shows me that order does increase in localised areas: snowflakes form, embryos grow.
quote: Are you saying these phenomena are recent? Did we not have rampant crime 200 years ago? Child labour? Domestic violence? Bloody warmongering? Would my personal freedom as a young woman in the year 1000, 1500, or 1900 have been greater or lesser than it is today?
quote: In the past, did we not have plagues that wiped out millions? Did we not die much younger, often in childhood or childbirth? Were we not infested with parasites and other chronic problems? Are you saying we are worse off today, with our modern sanitation, our understanding of disease, our vaccinations, our knowledge of body systems and our surgical techniques? (I'm not saying it's all perfect, just querying your comment that we are worse off than before.) Your general comments are not making much sense to me yet. Can you be more specific? Hopefully my questions will help guide your responses.
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quote: Forgive me, but that's the kookiest definition of "evolution" I've ever heard.
quote: Sorry, I did misunderstand because my interpretation was the only way I could make sense of what I thought you were trying to say. Thank you for the clarification. However, I still disagree - if what you have called a decrease in entropy refers to the life on Earth, you can't compare that to the sun and other planets which have no life. Obviously on planets with no life, there will be no increasing complexity in the biosphere. That's logic.
quote: You have referred to one of the many examples I gave - I would welcome your comments on the others. Regarding child labour: I'm not quite sure of the point you're making - you've gone from saying that too much education takes us further from the "truth", to saying that child labor laws are putting kids on the street where they make trouble. Is there a causal connection here? I don't see one.
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quote: Which stats? How far back do the stats go? What about the times for which we have no stats? How can we know what the level of domestic violence was then?
quote: Well, we have not defined "today" so I don't know what timeframe you mean, but I find it hard to believe that more people are suffering and dying because of war than ever before. Humans have always warred - and frequently by order of God.
quote: You started well - contentment is a good indicator of the wellbeing of society. You seem to have an idealised view of what life for women was like, however, but I'm not going to give you a history lesson. I do ask you to show how logic and common sense are served by a society that denies women education and choice. The "without the pressures" thing... Oops. Credibility slipping... slipping...
quote: Men were NOT kinder to women. They loved and respected them LESS. See, I can make assertions too! What proof do you have? And why do you think this alleged lack of kindness, love and respect is due to an over-educated society? Eek!... credibility slipping further... the home is analagous to a government or church or club? That's news to me.
quote: Personal opinion, to which you're entitled, but not relevant to whether or not social problems have increased due to too much education.
quote: Till next time. I would like to hear your opinion on whether you think advances in science and medicine have brought us benefits, or are simply another cause of increased social problems than we previously had. I'd also like to know whether you think the scientific method, as a means of describing the universe, is bringing us closer to the truth of what the universe is.
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pingu~ Guest |
quote: Agreed - same goes for rape, which is certainly reported more often than it was 50, 100, 300 years ago. Due in no small part to the empowerment of women, I might add.
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