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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3073 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
"There doesn't appear to have been much actual criticism of Coulter's book beyond the OP on this thread. However, Jerry Coyne, a biologist at the University of Chicago, has written an excellent on-line piece discussing Coulter's misunderstanding" There are no "misunderstandings". Coyne, like most evolutionists, set themselves up as a "teacher" correcting an inferior (opponent). This happens when the evo cannot refute his opponent. In reality, Coyne simply disagrees and/or like I said cannot refute. The tactic is wholly dishonest = the evo way. Since Coyne is a dark-minded evolutionist all of his conclusions are predetermined every step of the way. Ray
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3073 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
Considering that he is a Professor of Biology at the University of Chicago, he actually is a teacher. He teaches and does research in Biology (specifically, the genetics of speciation) for a living. Nice dodge. Ray
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3073 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
Uh, how is the fact that he actually IS a teacher a dodge of your accusation that he "assumes the position of a teacher"? He doesn't have to "assume" the position. He really is a Professor of Biology. He really is a teacher. You have misunderstood. Let me help. Coyne, an evolutionist, and Coulter, of whom I presume is an IDist or Creationist, simply disagrees with her. In order to grind his axe Coyne and Quetzal claim the inferior Coulter does not understand, when in fact, like I said, he simply disagrees. I have done like Coyne in this post too. Claiming you misunderstand, when in fact, we just disagree....do you understand ? Ray
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3073 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
What kind of teacher would Coyne be if he didn't try to correct her mistakes? You are mistaken. Coyne and Coulter are opponents - neither person is a teacher or student in the context that we found them. Either one may be a teacher or student in their private or professional lives, but, like I just mentioned, the context of their union are worldview and debate opponents. We know Coyne teaches at the university level. We also know that Coulter teaches her knowledge in the books that she writes and speaking lectures. I am sure both persons admit to being students of the secrets of knowledge until the day that they die. In addition, your question assumes Coullter needs correcting when in fact Coyne disagrees. We know disagreement is the real reason because Darwinists and Creationists do not agree. Therefore, the "correcting tactic" is exactly that - a tactic caused by the inability to refute or admit that you simply disagree, which exposes the dishonesty of the "teacher correcting student tactic". I am glad to be able to correct your mistake and see that you are open for correction. Ray
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3073 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
Yeah, for real. I mean it's not like expertise actually exists, right? A lifetime of devoting yourself to study in a field? Meaningless, of course. You are mistaken. Coyne's credentials were never in dispute. Ray
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3073 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
Actually, Ray, it's not that Coulter "disagrees", it's that she's utterly clueless. Her screed is nothing but a rehash of YEC PRATTs, some of which even the main creationist organizations have finally admitted are bogus. Name two that her own kind part ways with her ? Ray
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3073 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
He disagrees because she is wrong, ray. That has been and was my whole entire point, Missy. Disagreement and misunderstanding are not synonyms. The former is invalid since Coyne and Coulter retain opposing worldviews. Quite an exasperating exchange of posts to get you to agree to one simple point - finally. Of course, you could have misunderstood all along. Ray
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3073 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
Coyne writes: As for biologists' supposed agenda of godlessness -- how ridiculous! Yes, a lot of scientists are atheists, but most have better things to do than deliberately destroy people's faith. This goes doubly for the many scientists -- roughly a third of them -- who are religious. After all, one of the most vocal (and effective) opponents of ID is Ken Miller of Brown University, a devout Catholic. Atheists not involved full time in opposing and attempting to destroy their worldview enemies ? Jerry: I just obtained controlling interest in a bridge in Brooklyn, looks like a cash cow - email me if you want in ?(pyramidial@yahoo.com). Ken Miller a devout Catholic ? So are Mafia bosses, and pedophile priests. http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/mischedj/ca_hitler.html
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter." --Adolf Hitler (1922) Jerry: Anyone can CLAIM to be a Christian as we can see. We know Ken Miller is an atheist because he believes apes morphed into men, and rejects what God says in the Bible = what all atheists believe. Straightforward logic. Ray
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3073 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
According to Ray scientists are atheists by definition. Feel free to back-up this claim anytime. Ray
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3073 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
Can you please show evidence that Atheists wish to destroy non-Atheists? Exposing oneself to reality is the only way to cure naievete. It is a self-evident fact corresponding to reality overwhelmingly. Feigning a legitimate question (framed rhetorically) only substantiates how out of touch with reality that anyone might be who doesn't know this. Schrafinator: What happens when you leave an atheist and a Bible alone in the same room ? [hint: replace atheist with Catholic priest and Bible with young boy] AtheistCLU drag the Bible into their rape (court) rooms and hold her down while "Christian" Judges and witnesses do the dirty work. Since no genuine Christian would cooperate with the ACLU, and the ACLU would never support one either, the "Christians" mentioned are not real Christians because their actions prove that they are atheists. Atheists and Christians are worldview enemies, when they agree and cooperate in regards to the Bible then this fact proves ONE aint genuinely as such. In the case of our "Christian" Judges and witnesses we only need to explain their belief about themselves. Judas kissing Jesus is that explanation and proves that the Bible corresponds to reality.
And do you agree that Coulter's claim that all scientists are Atheists is in error, since about one third of all scientists are believers? I don't believe Coulter said ALL scientists are atheists, there must be something taken out of context. One third believers ? Apply Judas syndrome. Ray
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3073 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
Rant someplace else, or I'll get the admins to box your ears. Let me interpret: You are unable to refute, and thus you are angry, and are threatening to summon your Mommy (Darwinian Mods) in an attempt to salvage some satisfaction because your kind controls the microphone and the board. Ray
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3073 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
You do realize that you are essentially claiming either a worldwide conspiracy among hundreds of thousands of scientists to maintain an utter falsehood Darwinists not in a conspiracy to maintain their reality defying theory ? Lawyers are in conspiracy to promote the well being of their profession, as are doctors, pilots, unions, banks, etc.etc. Churches are in conspiracy to promote their well being. Each denomination seeks to have their brand of religion flourish. Political parties are in conspiracy to promote their agenda hoping to defeat their rivals. Cops are in conspiracy against criminals and vice-versa. It is the most uncontested and in the open conspiracy of all time: Darwinists conspire to promote their theory hook or crook. The best physical evidence of the Darwinian conspiracy is the fact that the crust of the earth shows no signs of what a evolutionary theory necessitates: intermediacy/transitional. This means that the only logical explanation for the "success" of your conspiracy is the Biblical explanation: "Darwinism is a penalty from God for denying Him the credit and status of Creator" (Dr. Gene Scott). Ray
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