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MangyTiger

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Message 116 of 298 (332950)
07-18-2006 2:55 PM

Is ignorance bliss?

I don't know whether to be glad or sad that outside of EvC I've never even heard of Ann Coulter.

I'm half tempted to try and read up some of her stuff to see if she's as great as NJ says or as bad as most of the rest of you say.

But life is short...

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Message 233 of 298 (340926)
08-17-2006 8:50 PM

Reply to: Message 231 by crashfrog
08-17-2006 8:34 PM

Re: Critique by Jerry Coyne

I've seen Hovind take on a panel of three professors of biology and wiped the floor with them. I don't particularly agree with much of what Hovind says, but he sure shut them up.

Probably because the things he was saying were so absolutely stupid that intelligent people were taken aback, temporarily stunned by his ignorance. It happens.

You may be right but I suspect there's a good chance that despite (presumably) lecturing as part of their jobs they were simply unequipped to deal with a professional con-artist like Hovind.

It's like the shell game and other tricks - knowing it's a con doesn't necessarily mean you can beat it.

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Message 236 of 298 (340940)
08-17-2006 10:06 PM

Reply to: Message 234 by Hyroglyphx
08-17-2006 9:22 PM

Re: Critique by Jerry Coyne

Not quite. Have a look-see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMpk7WerFWw

According to the timer that video is over two hours long. Care to point us at the times for any particular bits that illustrate your point rather than us having to sit through it (or rather not bother to

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Message 237 of 298 (340950)
08-17-2006 10:27 PM

Reply to: Message 234 by Hyroglyphx
08-17-2006 9:22 PM

Re: Critique by Jerry Coyne

Look the reason that we immediately jump to these conclusions is that they're always true. Either the guy's degree has nothing to do with biology, or it's from an unaccredited school. What, you think we don't know which schools are accredited and which are not? You can look it up, you know.

Tell me which of these is not accredited? Cripes, even ICR's university is accredited and has to be continually updated to stay accredited.

Not Found | School of Biblical Apologetics

But you feel that is biased, so which of these proponents of ID has a 'paper-mill degree, as opposed to a legitimate BS, Masters or PhD?'

Fellows | Discovery Institute
Fellows | Center for Science and Culture
Faculty | The Institute for Creation Research
Page not found - Reasons to Believe
Bios | Answers in Genesis

Nope.... Not real scientists.

Its just some of those 'sudo sientistz that hate evilution!'

Look carefully at what crash said (bolding mine):

Either the guy's degree has nothing to do with biology, or it's from an unaccredited school.

Now how many of the people listed in your links have biology related degrees?

I can go through and do the counting if you really want but the answer for the Discovery Institute, ICR and Reasons To Believe is 'not many'.

As for the Answers In Genesis list, well again lots of non-biology related folks. I suppose the remainder of the list could be compared to Project Steve for a laugh.

So crash was a bit OTT by suggesting there were no biology related degrees but he wasn't far off the mark.

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