If a scientist actually knocked down the ToE, it would make scientific headlines and he or she would be made a celebrity among their peers.
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That all depends.
No, it really would happen.
It would be something along the lines of Einstein supplanting Newton's work.
And you know the late Stephen Jay Gould and Niles Eldridge? And Bob Bakker?
Those scientists became famous among their peers for, in part, knocking down dominant paradigms in their respective fields.
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Without evolution there is no good reason to be an atheist.
What on Earth are you talking about?
I have no idea how this statement is relavent.
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So, I'm not sure how much celebrity, fortune, and fame would come out of it. I would think that resistence would come out of it.
If the evidence strongly leads in a certain direction, that is where scientists will follow.
Since science is a conservative endeavor, it is slow to embrace new explanations for phenomena until a certain critical mass of successfully borne out preditions have been produced.
There are always competing explanations for everything, although all are subject to the same rather brutal scrutiny and efforts to falsify them.
That's what scientists do, you know. They spend their days trying to falsify their own theories.
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Oh wait, that is what is happening.
There is virtually no resistance among active researchers in the life sciences to the ToE.
The only resistance is from people who's religious beliefs make them resistant to Biology.
Really, scientists laud and reward those who do great science, regardless if they personally agree with the findings or not.
You do realize that scientists are lauded and made famous by overturning long-held pradigms, don't you?
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Yes, but none that would be so damaging to an atheist as this.
I still fail to fathom why you think evolution has anything at all to do with Atheism.
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That's why a fight, tooth and nail, is going down.
There is no "fight" within science about the ToE, just as there is no "fight" within science about the Theory of a Heliocentric Solar System, the Germ Theory of Disease, or the Atomic theory of Matter.
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This forum is evidence of such.
No, this forum seeks to resist the religious movement to get their dogma taught in public school classrooms.
You do realize that you are essentially claiming either a worldwide conspiracy among hundreds of thousands of scientists to maintain an utter falsehood, or that all of those same scientists are so stupid that they cannot see that even an utterly uninformed layperson like Coulter was able to deduce what they could not?
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No, I believe that most people, particularly the laymen, do believe in the veracity of the ToE.
That reply has nothing at all to do with my question.
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I know, however, the more that an expert acquanits him or herself with biology, that they understand very well that the theory doesn't add up.
Er, then shouldn't we see the majority of Biologists publishing papers that directly contradict the ToE?
Why do we see instead the opposite?
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By this time, they have to invent meaningful reasons to the 'keep the faith,' so to speak, alive in their hearts.
So, you ARE claiming a worldwide conspiracy of hundreds of thousands of scientists.
In fact, you are also claiming that these thousands of scientists perpetuate an elaborate fraud, and that every single paper that is published contains false information.
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Gould is a prime example of what I'm talking about. The more you read his works, the more evident it becomes that his belief were shaken to the core.
That is a shameful Creationist lie, and Gould was very annoyed that his work and his words were constantly being misrepresented and misused by the likes of you.
The following is an excerpt from his essay entitled
Evolution as Fact and Theory. You really should read it if you want to know what he thinks about the ToE rather than what some creationists website has distorded his position into.
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Scientists regard debates on fundamental issues of theory as a sign of intellectual health and a source of excitement. Science is”and how else can I say it?”most fun when it plays with interesting ideas, examines their implications, and recognizes that old information might be explained in surprisingly new ways. Evolutionary theory is now enjoying this uncommon vigor. Yet amidst all this turmoil
no biologist has been lead to doubt the fact that evolution occurred; we are debating
how it happened. We are all trying to explain the same thing: the tree of evolutionary descent linking all organisms by ties of genealogy.
Creationists pervert and caricature this debate by conveniently neglecting the common conviction that underlies it, and by falsely suggesting that evolutionists now doubt the very phenomenon we are struggling to understand.
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Since we proposed punctuated equilibria to explain trends, it is infuriating to be quoted again and again by creationists”whether through design or stupidity, I do not know”as admitting that the fossil record includes no transitional forms. Transitional forms are generally lacking at the species level, but they are abundant between larger groups.
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As far as Coulter goes, she is not a scientist, nor does she pretend to be one. However, her research of the debate led her to her inquiry. She allows for expert opinion to guide her,
No, she didn't.
She only allowed proponents of ID to guide her.
Her "research" was entirely biased and one-sided.
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just as you let expert opinion to guide you. The only difference is her experts differ from yours.
That's true.
The difference is, however, that I have considerd
both the scientific and the Creationist explanations, but Coulter cites not a single non-religiously motivated expert as a source.
Coulter isn't interested in exploring the evidence. She is interested only in promoting her preconceived ideas and assiduously ignores any contradictory sources.
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